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AIBU Tesco shoppers in PJs 'Disgusting' REALLY?

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1DAD2KIDS · 05/01/2017 18:10

Just read this article

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/outraged-man-asks-tesco-to-ban-disgusting-shoppers-from-wearing-pyjamas/ar-BBxVcVl?ocid=spartandhp

Wearing PJs in Tesco's should be banned because its offensive and making people feel uncomfortable, Ridiculous. Not sure about you but I generally don't find anything threatening or to be worried about by people in PJs? I cant see that its indecent either; I doubt people are parading down the isles in skimpy Lingerie this time of year. Even if they were there is nothing wrong with the human body. This isn't Calvinist Geneva or Taliban controlled Kandahar. Some people are offended by or feel uneasy around Goths, Clowns, Women in niqab or burka, Transsexuals, people in football shirts etc. It doesn't mean that their personal hang ups should restrict other peoples freedom of dress. People are so easily offended these days.

Anyone else offended by people in PJs in Tesco?

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Shockers · 07/01/2017 13:35

Momma, I like you Smile.

MommaGee · 07/01/2017 13:35
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MommaGee · 07/01/2017 13:36

Sad face was for Mrs pupil not you Shockers.

Shockers gets Flowers

CaraAspen · 07/01/2017 13:38

"Headofthehive55

cara yes I can't bend my arms enough yet to wear the sort of tailored clothing I am used to. Yet I doubt my neighbours know I've had surgery.

I certainly not tell people ever again to dress as you will feel better - it was not my experience - I actually felt more uncomfortable."

I rather think the hospital nurses and doctors have just everyday clothing in mind - obviously not tailored clothing!! Who would wear a suit while sitting in the bedside chair? No one.
The point is they want people to get dressed properly as opposed to just wearing pyjamas because pyjama-wearing tells the brain you are ill or going to sleep shortly. Wrong messages.

CaraAspen · 07/01/2017 13:41

"NerrSnerr

But I'm guessing the people sneering wouldn't mind pictures being posted of them on here as I'm sure they all look perfect all of the time."

I wouldn't have the slightest objection because I am always properly dressed. No problemo.

MommaGee · 07/01/2017 13:44

Maybe she doesn't own any regular clothes that are that easy to get on and off and didn't want to buy new? Maybe she thought she had the right to wear clothes without offensive slogans or pictures, which doesn't expose too much flesh, without judgement?

Headofthehive55 · 07/01/2017 13:49

cara I feel you are showing me very little empathy. It's not just a suit - I can't get a dress on either. I tend to wear fitted clothing, so not much room. I do not wear long sleeved jersey tops - hence the pjs! I did want to go to sleep - difficult when you have so much discomfort I know but any message that says sleep is very welcome!
You are got out if bed actually because if the DVT risk - but I do feel it has become a bit of a mantra - and we are not allowing people to have recovery time or dare to be ill.

daisychain01 · 07/01/2017 13:50

You wouldn't find people in France, Spain, Italy going to the shops in PJ's. They think Brits are weird, and I tend to agree.

Standards are well and truly slipping [said in Margot Leadbetter/Hyacinth Bucket tones]

CaraAspen · 07/01/2017 13:57

"daisychain01

You wouldn't find people in France, Spain, Italy going to the shops in PJ's. They think Brits are weird, and I tend to agree.

Standards are well and truly slipping [said in Margot Leadbetter/Hyacinth Bucket tones]"

Have yet to see it here either but then I live in a National Trust village.

TSSDNCOP · 07/01/2017 14:06

I gave this a bit of thought before posting.

I don't feel disgusted.

I do think that a person that goes out like this will likely be a chippy, negative generally obnoxious little cunt that couldn't give a fuck about propriety or authority - an attitude that will spill into other aspects not just their supermarket trips.

It turns out I'm happy to wear the Sweeping Generalisation hat Grin

MommaGee · 07/01/2017 14:25

Has anyone who assumes the wearers of pj's outside of the house are dirty, chavvy, county, skanks actually seen one? Spoken to one? You know, made an informed decision rather than a sweeping generalisation about people who don't conform?
I live in a working class area of the Midlands and have to say I've only encountered onsie wearing at youth club. The girls were very open about wanting to feel comfortable and happy, not to worry about how they look or how other people view them or whether they look pretty or attractive. I applaud the attitude - if only more teenage girls cares less about their outward looks maybe I wouldn't have spent a whole festival surrounded by 14 year old girls butts hanging out their shorts!!

Nutterfly · 07/01/2017 14:33

I've never worn my PJ's out of the house but honestly do not give a shit if anyone else does.
However, this thread has left a bad taste in my mouth. I've been on Mumsnet for years and don't remember the last time I saw such a sneery thread
If you have to judge total strangers, do it on whether they are kind or unkind, or nice or mean. Not because they have a different opinion on when to wear certain types of clothing.
I don't usually hand these out but this thread requires it BiscuitBiscuitBiscuit

daisychain01 · 07/01/2017 14:47

I haven't seen anyone wandering around in PJs either Cara, but it seems to be the done-thing these days.

As long as the PJs are White Stuff or Fatface, then they're a fashion statement, other than that, just plain chavvy Grin

Lockheart · 07/01/2017 14:51

I don't think it's disgusting, but I do think it's rude. It sends out a message that they don't give a damn about themselves, or about the people around them*. It's disrespectful.

As a species, we have cultural and societal norms, which allow everyone to go comfortably about their business. There is variation around the world, but you will always find some form of standards wherever you go. We have manners, we have numerous unspoken rules of etiquette, and one part of that much bigger picture is dressing appropriately.

Does it physically harm anyone if someone goes into a church wearing hotpants and a crop top? Or if a group of shirtless men are hanging around in the cinema, or someone turns up to a black tie event in an old hoody, or wanders down the street in their underwear? Of course it doesn't. But that doesn't mean you can do it and expect there to be no reaction. The key is to have respect for other people.

*This should not be confused with not caring about what other people think of them, which is in many circumstances an admirable thing.

MommaGee · 07/01/2017 15:05

It sends out a message that they don't give a damn about themselves, or about the people around them. It's disrespectful.*

This isn't at a wedding or into work or to a funeral. Its a supermarket. Are they polite to the cashier? Do they mind put my way of I ask them politely? Do they make sure they don't wee on the loo seat? Are they generally well behaved and polite?

All of these things tell me much more about someone's respect for me and others. I don't need to see what they're wearing to know this, unless it's an I "heart" KKK T-shirt for example. I don't get why people take it so personally what I wear! It isn't an affront to you. They didn't think about you when getting dressed but then again neither did I when I put on clean underwear, a skirt, leggings and t shirt to come out. If I was in pj's, it wouldnt affect your enjoyment of the movie I'm about to see.
As for respect for themselves, they're not rolling about in pee stained trousers from a week ago reeking of gin, they're not in a nightclub doing anything in the loo'svfor personal validation, they're happy and comfortable and clearly secure in themselvea

EthelEgbert · 07/01/2017 15:12

Hasn't it been a catwalk trend for a while though? I wonder if it's trickle down fashion...

www.vogue.co.uk/gallery/spring-trend-2016-slip-dress-pyjama-daywear

EthelEgbert · 07/01/2017 15:16

"If there is one thing we can conclude from Fall 2016 Fashion Week, it’s that pajamas are the newest (and greatest) trend! Sounds pretty awesome, right? Well, according to the New York, London, and Paris runways, sleepwear is apparently the new daywear. Some of you may be sitting there and thinking, “there is no way I can pull off pajamas,” but if Givenchy says it’s OK, then it looks like you’re in the clear.

Although some might consider this trend to be one of the strangest we’ve seen in a while, this is not the first time pajamas have been on our radar. In fact, stylish pajamas have made their appearances on the red carpet, runways, and streets over the past few years, and these looks always manage to make headlining news. Why? Because going out in public in PJs breaks almost every fashion rule there is…but we love it regardless! So, browse below to see a 4-year timeline of celebrities perfectly nailing the pajama chic trend. From silky button downs to loose-fitting robes, these items will easily slide in as your favorite outfit options."

Seems that some are more equal than others.

TSSDNCOP · 07/01/2017 15:21

You're right Ethel except for 2 key points. First even Givenchy cannot make terry-towelling work, and the lingerie look was SS 2016 which is like 10 years ago on Planet Fash.

mummyof2pr · 07/01/2017 16:02

Oh my gosh I was attacked in Facebook comments over this!!! I just don't understand how this is so offensive to so many people. Focus on you and what you're doing and what you need to get done and let everyone else live how they want as long as it's not causing anyone any harm!

BlackIsTheNewBlack · 07/01/2017 16:04

There's a mum that I see on the school run every day, and every day she's wearing the same dirty fleecy pj bottoms. Some days she puts leggings over the top (leggings are see through).
She looks dirty and very unkempt (matted hair).
I judge massively because I also see her smoking (on the school run...bleugh!) So I doubt it's a money thing (if she can afford fags then she could definitely afford some cheap trousers).
I don't feel disgusted or offended but I really feel for her kid. How embarrassing!

It also makes me wonder what their house is like...

thestarryeyedsurprise · 07/01/2017 16:14

Wow some of the comments on this thread are disgusting!

Thinkingofausername1 · 07/01/2017 16:21

I can't believe some of the bloody crap I've read in the sun and the mail lately. I think we are becoming too judgmental of others these days; instead of focusing on how we can become better people individually. It's lazy journalism and they should be ashamed of themselves particularly the article regarding drunk people out on New Years. How dare they photograph vulnerable people like that

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 07/01/2017 16:35

Fascinating thread.

The pyjama wearer supporters's arguments seem to rely very heavily on the "I don't give a shit" line coupled with a lot of virtue signalling about how laid back and tolerant they are , and a little soupcon of fantasy (the 24 hour emergency on call workers)

Not particularly convincing or persuasive.

Astro55 · 07/01/2017 16:41

spoken to one? You know, made an informed decision rather than a sweeping generalisation about people who don't conform?

Note to self - interrogate next pj wearing woman in Tesco - require about cleanliness and wanshing

mummyof2pr · 07/01/2017 16:44

I just don't think it's fair to judge somebody or assume that they are unhygienic or disgusting or a "skank" or "tramp" based solely on the fact that they wore pyjamas out of their house...it has no effect on anyone else whatsoever so why is everyone making it such a big issue and treating each other so horribly over it?