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To lie about reason for implant removal.

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4men1lady · 03/01/2017 10:12

There was a thread yesterday about getting the implant removed earlier than the expiry date and after seeing some replies, it has made me think twice about being honest about the reason for asking for it to be removed.

I've had it in since October, and ever since I have been so so down in the dumps, horrendous mood swings to the point I can feel my chest tighten with the stress. I can go days and days without leaving the house, it take a hell of a lot to make a meal and I'd quite happily stay in pjs all day.
I've put a lot of weight on, I know it's been Xmas so should expect a few pounds etc but it's going on quite quickly and coming off really really slowly.

I have two small children so I just can't live with very little motivation and I feel I am not doing my best by them.

The thing is, I'm worried the clinic will try and get me to stick it out a bit longer so I was thinking of telling them we've had a complete change of mind and we want to try for another baby. This isn't true, we do want to try later on in the year but not just yet. I have 6 months of my pill already at home so will just continue with that!

Wwyd? Be completely honest and not take no for an answer or lie?

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acatcalledjohn · 03/01/2017 13:08

I had one of those for about 3 months. It was mood swing hell and my sex drive went through the floor, despite never having had an issue on cerazette, which is effectively the same.

Just tell them you really don't react well to it and you want it out. They can't force you to keep it in, so no point in lying.

terrythetrex · 03/01/2017 13:09

I have an appointment to have it out this week.

I've had it over a year and my rage moods have been increasingly worse. They're not constant but seem to be when I should have my period normally, as they are now every 6-8 weeks, I have a week of phantom pms and an actually week of pms. it's a nightmare.

Also I have zero sex drive.

I hadn't really thought about the implant affecting it that much until this thread, so booked an appointment today, hopefully I have no problems getting it out.

cars254 · 03/01/2017 13:12

I could have written this myself - had it in since 2015 and have put about 3st in zero motivation and could happily stay in pjs all day. I told doc I wanted it out and something non-hormonal so he's suggested copper coil. Trying that for a few months and then going for sterilisation. I defo think there's been a link between my mood and weight gain and the implant. You don't need to lie though; your body, your choice! Good luck OP x

expatinscotland · 03/01/2017 13:12

'I would just be honest, I don't see why there would be any issue having it removed early.'

You don't when several posters here have shared that they have HCPs refuse to remove it (and if you do even slight research on MN, you'll see this is actually quite common)? Women are regularly being told they must keep a foreign object in their bodies that they no longer consent to having (implant or Mirena coil).

acatcalledjohn · 03/01/2017 13:14

Also, I went back on to cerazette again straight after and that doesn't agree with me anymore either. I now have a copper coil instead, given that hormones just don't seem to agree with me anymore.

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4men1lady · 03/01/2017 13:19

I've got an appt for tomorrow afternoon for a consultation.

I explained I'd only had it in a few months and asked if that'd be a problem having it removed, receptionist said after the consultation the nurse would make a decision. If I hadn't had a huge row with staff in sports direct prior to ringing up, I would of explained that it would be my decision, but think I'll save that for tomorrow. Don't want to go in already being the awkward patient.

And I think I'll have to lie initially and then as pp said, during the removal go through the bad side effects.

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expatinscotland · 03/01/2017 13:20

'receptionist said after the consultation the nurse would make a decision.'

That is fucking ridiculous. 'I no longer consent to this treatment.'

oldlaundbooth · 03/01/2017 13:30

No, OP as expat says the nurse will not make a decision regarding your body. It's your body, tell them flat out to remove the damn thing.

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4men1lady · 03/01/2017 13:34

Yes I am not taking any shit..just had enough shit off the sports direct staff.

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KnittedBlanketHoles · 03/01/2017 13:35

I'm a GP and in my area, implant removals and insertions are an enhanced service that we can claim a fee for - it's about £84 for implant removal AFAIK.

Where do you have to pay for contraction, I am surprised?

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4men1lady · 03/01/2017 13:39

Bloody hell..I hope they don't want any dosh off me!

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JensenAcklesUndercrackers · 03/01/2017 13:39

I had mine removed after 3 months, because I was a hot mess with it. I told the truth, that it was making me ill with constant headaches, 3 weeks of bleeding and awful weight gain, still the dr tried to persuade me to keep it in but I stuck to my guns and she (begrudgingly) complied and dug it out.
It's your body, you get the final say. Don't let them fob you off.

oldlaundbooth · 03/01/2017 13:42

Might be obvious to others, but why do these health professionals try and persuade women to keep these implants in, even when they are not working and making people sick and depressed?

Costs /targets? Seems bizarre.

SecretTryer · 03/01/2017 13:52

"The nurse will make a decision" - is that the sort of power the NHS has over people. Sounds almost like eugenics.

aforestgrewandgrew · 03/01/2017 14:07

I would lie, but also ask for the side effects to be put on my record.

Pigsbum · 03/01/2017 14:52

I had the implant about 12 years ago and it was brilliant no side effects at all, I can't remember why I didn't get it replacedbut anyway about 3 years ago I decided to go back on it and after a year found that I had zero sex drive and completely random bleeding that could last weeks so went to the doctors and asked if it could be the implant, I was dismissed and made to feel silly - how could it be when I'd tolerated it so well before?

I got a referral for further tests to see if there was another reason for the bleeding and found I had some fairly large ovarian cysts, so was referred for further tests and in the mean time insisted that the implant was removed, despite some eye rolling and condescending chats about how unlikely it was that the implant was causing these issues.

By the time the further tests were done (I think around 6 weeks) all the cysts had cleared and my periods were regular!

It has always annoyed me that I really had to put my foot down to get the implant removed though and I was glad to change doctors when I moved soon after.

Pigsbum · 03/01/2017 14:52

Oops sorry, what I meant to say after all that was that in conclusion: I would lie!

Muppetslikecoco · 03/01/2017 15:11

I remember going back to the doctors after 6 months of having it and I'd had bleeding (light) for the entire six months. When I told the nurse this she said 'well it takes up to nine months to settle down'. And then sent me on my way to come back in three months if nothing improved. I was mortified and she made me feel like I was being totally ridiculous.

ALittleMop · 03/01/2017 15:12

"The nurse will make a decision"
"she stated that she was not going to do it at that point and I need to "think about it" and book in to have it removed in 4 weeks time"
"I had to threaten to take a pen knife to mine before they'd remove it. "
"The dr wouldn't take it out until I had it for a year"
"I sobbed my bloody heart out in that GPs office. Got told give it another 6 months, I'd already had it 8 months"
" It caused iron deficiency, which they were treating, but they wouldn't take the implant out. "

What the Actual Fuck is going on? It's like some kind of dystopian fiction! Horrible!

expatinscotland · 03/01/2017 15:13

I cannot imagine any foreign body that did this in the bodies of men ever being tolerated. But when it comes to women, you're expected to put up with all sorts of shit. It's sexist bullshit. 'I do not consent to this treatment any further. I want this device removed from my body because I no longer consent to its being there.' This is your decision to make.

ALittleMop · 03/01/2017 15:32

Exactly expat. Institutionalised misogyny.

ScarletSienna · 03/01/2017 15:36

This reminded me I needed to book an appointment to have mine take out. I called my GP surgery and got an appointment for the middle of February (first available) no questions asked. I then asked if I could go anywhere to have it taken out sooner and was given a central number for sexual health clinics and found out there's a drop in service today for three and a half hours held at my GP surgery so I'll be going to that. I'm really cross with the crap you're faced with-I utterly agree it is institutionalised misogyny.

Pineapplemilkshake · 03/01/2017 15:47

Knitted - we claim the fee through our payments portal, not from the patient.

Expat - I said I don't see why HCP's should refuse to remove it. Clearly some still do refuse, which is wrong IMO. I personally have never refused a removal, or insisted on a mandatory time that the woman should keep it in for. I can only speak for myself however. I think if I were a patient and a HCP refused to remove it, I would complain. And then move to a different practice, if possible.

Tearingoutmyhair · 03/01/2017 16:47

There was a HCP on a thread only yesterday speaking of why she is/would be reluctant to remove a coil that's been in less than a certain amount of time.

I'm genuinely flabbergasted that so many HCPs have seemingly lost sight of how bloody screwed up that is. An HCP has no right to force or coerce somebody into retaining a foreign object even if the patient in question is suffering no side effects at alll, never mind if their mental health is affected and/or they're anaemia/bleeding ceaselessly/in discomfort etc.

I mean it seems so blindingly clear by the standard of the reasonable (wo)man. However inconvenient it may be, how on earth can such a thing be justified? Removal of consent is removal of consent. So you're reluctant to remove something from somebody else's body that is affecting them and not you? So what?!

EstelleRoberts · 03/01/2017 17:34

'The nurse will make a decision.'

I don't bloody think so! If that nurse decides she gets to force you to keep it in, she is in blatant breach of medical ethics, and you can report her straight away.

If it were me, I would make it very clear I no longer consented to the treatment. If the nurse tried to fob me off, I would ask point blank: 'are you refusing to remove it, even though I have informed you that I have withdrawn my consent?' In the very unlikely event she still insists it stays in, I would then go straight to complaint.

I was on a thread a few weeks ago about numerous posters coming up against HCPs refusing to remove the Mirena coil (as was expat, IIRC). There seems to be a rather vile, misogynistic attitude amongst certain HCPs that women are basically silly little girls who can't be trusted not to get themselves unexpectedly up the duff unless they have long-term contraceptive implants that are inserted and removed at the behest of HCPs. It is fucking outrageous, and needs to be stamped out ASAP.

Furthermore, any HCP who insists on a patient remaining on long-term hormonal contraception that is causing depression needs to be re-educated in mental health. Six months is a VERY long time to be unnecessarily depressed. And that's not even taking into account bleeding, anaemia, loss of sex-drive etc.

FFS. It's 2017 and women are still expected to put up with this sort of crap. Unbelievable.

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