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Does everyone want to live in the US?

846 replies

AteRiri · 22/12/2016 19:43

I was talking to an American friend and he made this blanket statement, "Everyone wants to come here!"

Is this true?

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Bedsheets4knickers · 23/12/2016 15:59

No .. I don't even want to holiday there really , we'l do Disney once and that's it

Want2bSupermum · 23/12/2016 16:11

bumbly the CS rate is higher in part because of the demographics and also because of the way they manage births. My own experience was 3 CS's but with my first I had preeclampsia and labored for 22 hours to get to 5cm. They had me massaged, walking around, doing squats and acupuncture. The kid wasn't coming out. DD1 was born with a graze on her forehead. DS was going to be a Vbac until he was so big there was no way he was coming out. He was 10lb6oz and I'm so thankful I had the scans. DD2 was an automatic CS because my scar was showing signs of scaring that made them nervous of rupture. If it had been better they would have had me VBAC.

Obviously you can find doctors who will give you a CS at 37 weeks and you can easily find a midwife unit with doulas. The beauty of American healthcare is that you get to pick what you want.

bumbleymummy · 23/12/2016 16:34

Want2b, iirc their CS rate is 33% - obviously some are medically necessary (as in your case) but it's quite a high rate compared to other countries.

Want2bSupermum · 23/12/2016 16:41

The average age of mothers is higher as is the number of multiple births (as in twins, triplets or more) because fertility treatment is so much more widespread. In our town of less than 100k people the volume of twins is crazy. We are a NYC burb and the mothers are trying to get pregnant with their first at 41+. I have a friend who is 47 with a one year old. Average age for first is 43/44. I was 31 having my first and everyone harps on about how young I am. I just had my third at 35. I think I've had kids in the average to older side.

topcat2014 · 23/12/2016 16:44

No, but I love Canada this time of year - they do snow really well..
misses work trips

Clankboing · 23/12/2016 16:52

It's one of those places that I've never fancied going to. I'd like to visit New Zealand for its landscape, Australia for my family there, other places for achitecture. But no, US does not appeal. Nothing particular wrong with it, it just is a bit boring for my preferences.

wtffgs · 23/12/2016 16:56

No I love visiting family there. They are all proud to be naturalised Americans but equally, see the shite side of things, health care, working culture, lunatic politicians, over-reliance on oil etc. I wouldn't live there for the world. There are some fab people. My last visit was the first with DCs and people were so sweet.

spankhurst · 23/12/2016 16:58

I spent several months there in the early 90s and found it absolutely facinating but almost completely alien. It ws almost surreal. I thoroughly enjoyed it, though. I wouldn't want to live there now, especially with a child.

BayaGoji · 23/12/2016 16:59

I'd like to visit New Zealand for its landscape... But no, US does not appeal

Really??? The natural beauty and diversity of the USA is it's biggest selling point to me. LOTR may not have been filmed there but outside the huge cities, the US is a beautiful country. You would not be disappointed after a roadtrip across the country visiting its national parks and countryside. There's the deserts, the Rockies, Niagara Falls, Yosemite, actually, this link will show you better: matadornetwork.com/trips/photo-essay-18-natural-wonders-of-the-usa/

I'm not a fan of American culture and wouldn't want to live there, but it's madness to pretend that it isn't a beautiful country to visit if you're into nature and landscapes.

Kennington · 23/12/2016 17:01

I wouldn't mind east or west coast living but I have an issue with the number of guns and the dodgy healthcare set up and poor benefits system. And trump. And the black killings by police officers seems to occur with a terrible frequency not seen in Europe.

pandarific · 23/12/2016 17:02

I would like to live in the US for a while. Not forever, but a few years.

Chokehold · 23/12/2016 17:03

Yes I love it there!

BantyCustards · 23/12/2016 17:04

Nope. Spent 6 years there. Met some truly wonderful people but I wouldn't return if you paid me.

Having said that I returned to the UK only to find that in many ways this small island was simply following suit: perhaps the actual issue is greedy human beings.

couchparsnip · 23/12/2016 17:04

I have lived there for a while. I came home in 2003 and wouldn't go back now. It's too scary right now. Most of my friends over there have been jokingly asking if I have a spare room!

BayaGoji · 23/12/2016 17:07

There are plenty of countries in Europe that I'd rather live in than the US or the UK.

lovelyupnorth · 23/12/2016 17:07

Currently in the states. Would I want to live here fuck no. Too many Americans for a start. Now Canada would move there in a heart beat.

NinjaLeprechaun · 23/12/2016 17:15

"Gas and air is rarely if ever available meaning women are left with an epidural or nothing 'choice'."
Are these really the only options available to women in the UK? I had all manner of lovely drugs when I was in labour, before they finally offered me an epidural after 3 days.
I'm one of those really poor people that everybody's supposing isn't served by the healthcare system. I've been hospitalized twice, in two different states, including my daughter's - midwife led - birth, and never paid a penny for it thanks to medicaid/medicare. Private room both times, good care, good food. I actually enjoyed being laid up for 3 days with a broken leg, and was a bit disappointed when they sent me home. I've had hospital care other times, when I wasn't insured at all, and they wrote off the bills when I showed that I couldn't pay. Although this can vary a lot from state to state, and even hospital to hospital.

For right now I intend to stay where I am (Oregon, just a shade south of Portland). If things go very badly wrong here though, then I would consider moving to Ireland before I'd move to the UK. Although I admit that Canada would be my fist choice - in large part due to its proximity to the US, and my family - but I don't have right of residence there.

SenecaFalls · 23/12/2016 17:16

Too many Americans for a start.

And posters on this thread are asking why we Americans are taking some comments personally?

bumbleymummy · 23/12/2016 17:17

Want2b, I suppose fertility treatment/multiples could account for some of it but average age of first time mums is 26 which is lower than the UK.

Mynestisfullofempty · 23/12/2016 17:17

topcat2014 "No, but I love Canada this time of year - they do snow really well.."

Beautiful Banff is looking very chilly at the moment www.banff.ca/trafficcams (bear in mind these are live webcams so the pictures will change depending on when you click on the link)

BlurryFace · 23/12/2016 17:19

No, I'd like to visit one day though. I couldn't imagine setting down roots somewhere I could potentially be bankrupted by having cancer treatments that also has such poor employment rights.

Purplepixiedust · 23/12/2016 17:19

I don't. Would like to live in Europe though.

Boogers · 23/12/2016 17:21

Wouldn't mind going for holidays but I've called Trump a dick on twitter so that might be my card marked.

DS loves Trump and wants to go to MIT. He's in.

I have several American friends and none of them say anything like "everyone wants to live in the US". That's quite an assumption to make. I, personally, don't want to live in the US. Quite happy with my little corner of England.

derxa · 23/12/2016 17:35

I do know that legal protections in the US for children with disabilities would make some of the situations described by parents on MN readily remediable in the US The best published SEND programmes came from
the USA when I was a SALT

Temporaryname137 · 23/12/2016 17:37

I'd love to. Wish I'd spent time living in NYC and California and now fantasise about somewhere in Montana or Wyoming. My dream holiday would be a few months driving from east coast to west!