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To think this is a new low even for Farage?

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LouiseBrooks · 20/12/2016 13:02

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/20/nigel-farage-accuses-jo-cox-widower-brendan-cox-of-supporting-extremism

"Farage said: “Well, of course, he would know more about extremists than me, Mr Cox. He backs organisations like Hope Not Hate, who masquerade as being lovely and peaceful, but actually pursue violent and undemocratic means.”

I really hope that Hope not Hate sue him.

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MagicMary1 · 20/12/2016 23:03

Sorry meant to say if I left your door open. We lock our doors for a reason to protect us from outsiders that could be dangerous a secured border is the same.

MagicMary1 · 20/12/2016 23:04

Fgs not everyone that doesn't agree with you is far right get a grip.

Yh it's not from trump university I don't fall for scams.

justicewomen · 20/12/2016 23:05

So why did not Farage say that? Instead when Brenden Cox politely challenged him on it, Farage smeared him by saying he "know more about extremists than me, Mr Cox. He backs organisations like Hope Not Hate, who masquerade as being lovely and peaceful, but actually pursue violent and undemocratic means.”

Farage used bullying behaviour by smearing him with no evidence to back his accusations; and you defending him for that bullying behaviour does you no credit.

SuburbanRhonda · 20/12/2016 23:06

So how do you propose we protect ourselves from home-grown killers, mary?

It's no good shutting your door if they're already in your house.

Deadsouls · 20/12/2016 23:06

Omg...Farage is never going to go away is he? He's like a turd that can't be flushed down the loo. He keeps saying he's retired but keeps bobbing up in the metaphorical toilet bowl. Now he's attached himself to Trump turd...will he ever ever just go away?

BigChocFrenzy · 20/12/2016 23:07

Brendan Cox certainly has never said Farage is responsible for his wife's murder by a far-right terrorist.

However, it seems Farage & his supporters are so hypersensitive about her murder that they assume they are being accused whenever Brendan makes a statement.
It's more like they are trying to close down Brendan than him trying to close them down.

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 20/12/2016 23:10

I am not sure Farage could get any lower to be fair

BigChocFrenzy · 20/12/2016 23:15

Farage or anyone else is perfectly entitled to say MENA immigrants or refugees should be stopped.
That he thinks they increase the risk of terrorist attacks or attacks on women.
Many people would agree.

It's outrageous though to blame Merkel personally for the Berlin attacks.
That's what most of us are criticising: his vile personal attack on another politician with whom he disagrees.

Should Merkel retaliate by blaming him personally for far-right terrorist attacks like Jo Cox's murder ?
No, probably she will keep to the normal sane standards of political behaviour.

justicewomen · 20/12/2016 23:21

I think we are also criticising the casual smearing of mainstream groups one happens not to agree with politically as "extremist". Earlier in the thread someone suggested that Hope not Hate getting funding from 2 legal trade unions was evidence of undemocratic behaviour. How has political debate stooped so low that we get nonsense like that?

surferjet · 20/12/2016 23:33

Hope not Hate supporters wishing someone dead?

You couldn't make it up.

Viviennemary · 20/12/2016 23:49

Indeed. This is why they will not get support. They should look to themselves first.

justicewomen · 20/12/2016 23:52

Viviennemary and Surferjet

I have not wished anyone dead and would condemn any one doing so.

Your turn to condemn Nigel Farages bullying smearing of Brendan Cox and the organisation Hope not Hate...off you go

Footinmouthasusual · 20/12/2016 23:55

Truly shocked at this. Really a new low even for Nigel.

Viviennemary · 21/12/2016 00:04

I don't know anything about Love not hate or whatever. But the amount of hatred directed at Nigel Farage is ridiculous. He's a poliltician not a murderer. Speak out against the real murders. And calling somebody a Frog faced cunt. If that's love I would like to see hate. It's madness.

Footinmouthasusual · 21/12/2016 00:05

To be fair though he is a frog faced cunt

WrongTrouser · 21/12/2016 00:08

I'd like to see a bit less condemnation of Nigel Farage for saying a few ill judged words and a bit more of the man who drove the truck into the crowd, myself.

53rdAndBird · 21/12/2016 00:16

I utterly condemn all mass murderers inspired by brutal sociopathic death cults like IS, and indeed by all other organisations, causes, delusions or whatever the fuck they want to claim as an excuse for their utter rejection of everything that makes us human.

There. Now am I allowed to criticise Nigel Farage, or is he still a poor bullied soul who we shouldn't ever disagree with so long as anyone worse is on the planet?

SenseiWoo · 21/12/2016 00:33

I am very tired of soundbite politics, no matter who is doing it. Twitter 'spats' are no substitute for proper discussion.

Cox's tweet was pointless. Farage's response was just abuse, really. He should have told us why he thinks this. Opinions are one thing, making allegations without giving the evidence another.

APlaceOnTheCouch · 21/12/2016 00:37

If they do pursue Farage for damages then we'll find out if there is any evidence to support his allegations. (I don't know anything about them so don't have an opinion one way or the other).

WrongTrouser · 21/12/2016 00:37

Do carry on. I didn't say NF was a poor bullied sole or that people shouldn't disagree with him. I just think the sense of perspective has all gone a bit weird. No-one is talking about the atrocity, but people are arguing about a Twitter spat between NF and BC. Where is the perspective?

WrongTrouser · 21/12/2016 00:40

Xpost. Mine was in reply to bird

Peregrina · 21/12/2016 06:10

I didn't think that the German police had caught the perpetrator yet.
So what happens, if and when they do, that they find he's another extreme right-winger like Anders Breivik? What will Farage and Arron Banks say then? I imagine they won't be able to shut their mouths quick enough.

What did they say when Anders Breivik did commit his atrocities? Nothing, I suspect, because it doesn't suit their agenda.

Tanith · 21/12/2016 06:42

No-one is talking about the atrocity, but people are arguing about a Twitter spat between NF and BC. Where is the perspective?

Have you not seen the news? Have you not read the other threads specifically about the atrocity?

winkywinkola · 21/12/2016 07:01

And Jo Cox's murder was political. Her killer shouted "Britain first" and has long associations with neo nazi groups.

He was not found to be mad by the courts.

Her killer made it political. He is a murdering terrorist.

I blame the driver of the truck who killed and hurt all those poor people in Berlin. He too is a murdering terrorist.

And Farage is dirt on my shoe. He collects a salary as an MEP and his attendance record is so low. Arrogant and unprofessional.

birdsdestiny · 21/12/2016 07:10

Why is NF given this level of publicity. He is not a MP, he is in a tiny political party. It's quite tricky even to state categorically that he is the leader of said party. His campaign for leaving the EU is over. What is his purpose and why does he get so much airtime. No one is ' shutting him down' he gets more airtime than any other minority political party.