To be so sick of cigarette smoke everywhere I go?

[WanderingNotLost]

And I do mean everywhere. Walking to the train station, people walking ahead of me smoking and I can't avoid it. Walking into the train station, at least half a dozen people desperately puffing away before they have to get on a train for max. 25 mins. Breathing out the last cloud of smoke as they get on the train and then their breath stinks up the carriage. Lighting up as soon as they leave the station at the other end. Walking from the tube station to work. Outside the building entrance when I go out for lunch. Same story on my way home. When I'm at home, can't have the balcony door or any windows open as other people's smoke wafts in. If it's not cigarette smoke it's that sickly sweet vapour. I just hate it so much, and I'm so aware of how bad it is for people - and smokers choose to do it, the people around them have no choice about breathing it in. If it were up to me it'd be illegal.

And please, please, no ridiculous comparisons to exhaust fumes (not that I drive anyway). Cars etc at least have a highly useful function, they get you from A to B. Smoking has literally not one single redeeming quality to make it worth all the negative aspects.

Hang on, so you're saying it's perfectly fine to push yours, your kids and whatevers carbon monoxide levels into double figures when you go outside because cars are useful. But a whiff of cigarette smoke which is only pushing up the smokers carbon monoxide levels into double figures isn't?

I think you're frothing over the wrong thing TBH. I second that joint or some other way to chill your boggle.

Other people impinge on one OP. They barge your trolley in the supermarket, fuck up the economy, support stupid causes and vote in a way you don't like. That's life. It's what happens. Your dislike and disapproval doesn't entitle you to any special say.

Calm the fuck down FGS.

Let's swap cigarettes with something else for comparison, say heroin. Heroin addicts know it's bad for them but hey, it's legal (in this scenario) and they like it, and they're addicted so they do it anyway. Now let's imagine that every time a heroin user injects themselves, everyone standing around them is also injected, whether they want to be or not. The damage a heroin user does themselves also happens to those people, in spite of never having touched the stuff in their lives.

You really don't know a lot about heroin, do you?

It's not heroin that's harmful to heroin addicts. Your argument is flawed.

I live in London and whilst I do see some people smoking outside stations and other busy buildings, it's actually getting fairly rare really.

I don't like the smell of cigarette smoke, but there are so many other smells I don't like in the open air too/on public transport that I can't get overly fussed about it.

However, I did have a degree of sympathy for you until you mentioned you've had to give up jogging because of it?!?

FFS that's utterly ridiculous and the worst excuse I've ever heard

Just jog round the park or something, unless there are crowds of smokers there too, blocking your pathway...

your comparison to being injected heroin is utterly ridiculous. seriously you're being hysterical now.

And WRT to exhaust fumes

If everyone stopped making unnecessary car journeys because they don't fancy a simple 20 minute walk, or they think their kids might dissolve in the rain on the way home from school, the air would be a lot cleaner everywhere.

Then you'd be able to jog on

When you pass a law banning most people from smoking inside it makes you look foolish to then complain that they are outside.

I remember the eagerness of people to see that law passed - oops.

I think OP you should be more worried about diesel particles in the air. They will never leave your system once inhaled. Cigarette smoke living in a city is the least of your problems.

" a lot of them smoke weed as well (partly social housing) "

so waht are you saying?
That only social housing tenants smoke weed?
Please.

...and by the way heroin is not actually that bad for you... just saying.

I walk quickly to overtake the smokers or cross the road. I also hold my breath going into a shop or station.

Lots of paranoid, obsessed, pathetic people on this thread.

Go out, enjoy life. Your life could end through some freak accident through any second. As you are dying eventually, do you really think your last thoughts will be "I'm so upset I smelt cigarette smoke in door ways"?

Grow up.

A) Don't tar all smokers with the same brush. I try my best to be a considerate smoker (I don't have children yet). My ends always go in the bin if I can find one and I try to keep away from others. Spray and mints always on stand by afterwards.
B) Vapes are being used to quit smoking. You can't have things both ways. People are using them to quit and that's a positive.
C) I know people who work with MPs on a lot harder stuff than weed. Don't stigmatize.
As for benefits, don't judge. I personally smoke because of previous mental health issues and it's my crutch. Yes, I've tried quitting. No I've not found a replacement crutch.

I think what some people here forget is that not everyone is a considerate smoker. Some people are arseholes and will blow smoke (or vape clouds) at you either unthinkingly or deliberately. And it is quite unpleasant.

I really dislike people smoking in queues. You can't get away without leaving the queue. And an offer to hold their spot can be met with abuse.

Yup, nice dig at social housing up thread there OP, must be nice for you being so above them

FruitCider life is a little more annoying when you've put clean clothes on and washed your hair then someone blows their disgusting smoke all over you.
This is AIBU it's not Will I Regret This On My Deathbed? (WIRTOMDB?)

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"Most of them smoke weed too" (Partly social housing)

Lovely.

Because, as we know, every person in social housing is on dope aren't they?

Personally, I would be happy to see smoking made illegal. Then my DD would have to give up. It does nobody any good and people would manage after a month or two (just as they moaned like mad when smoking was first banned on trains and planes and in offices, saying they could not possibly survive, but they did!). Cigarettes certainly wouldn't be legal if it were invented today with all that is known about the harm they cause.

In terms of mental health facilities, the old view was that mentally ill people smoked more as a group as they were in a way self-medicating. The latest research indicates that actually there may be a causal link the other way (obviously not to all mental illness, but some) and that smoking can go some way to causing psychosis.

Mind you, I would also ban diesel cars and high emission vehicles too so perhaps I am a little hard core and U.

For everyone accusing me of snobbery, I've already said that i made that comment without really thinking.

Op. if you think people smoking outside is making you seriously ill and that you're clothes and hair stink , you keep your windows closed in case of it, and you're not able to jog anymore because of it and have a fear it will make you vomit, all as you've written, then, you can either seek help over this because your reaction is so extreme or you can go through your life like this. It's you that's suffering and unable to live normally.

Smoking is unpleasant, of course, but your reaction is indeed bordering on hysterical. That's not patronising, it's simply stating a fact. You're life is being seriously impacted by your reaction to this, and its not normal. I, sorry but it's not.

Now I've read this thread I'm going to have a lovely cup of tea and a cig

Nothing like a smoking thread to get everyone frothing!

YABU and I say that as a non smoker, with asthma, who has a 10 month old DS. It's so easy to avoid outside you can just step away from the person who is smoking. They are smokers, they are going to smoke somewhere so I'm more than happy for them to smoke outside (except when my NDN flip their cigarette butts into my garden). I really can't find it in myself to get upset about people smoking outside, I literally just move somewhere else if it's bothering me, and most smokers are very respectful of other people and will smoke away from.me and blow the smoke in the other direction, particularly if I'm with DS (though I do live in Yorkshire and folk up 'ere are known for being friendly)

I didn't like jogging that much in the first place so it wasn't a huge sacrifice. But anyone who runs will know when you're out of breath and panting and get a big lungful of smoke it does make you cough like crazy and feel nauseous. I don't have a 'fear' of vomiting, but it's not exactly fun! So now I go rock climbing, which is an indoors activity and therefore smoke free environment and I can gaze the the beautiful men with the lovely bums . The rest of it isn't my opinion, it's fact. I do smell it on my hair and clothes. I do smell it when it comes in through my bedroom window - the couple who live below us smoke on their balcony and it drifts straight up to us. That's not an extreme reaction.

I do go out and enjoy life. But i'm an outdoors person. One of my favourite ways to spend a summer evening is in a pub garden with my friends and a pint of cider, but again, all outside everywhere is smoker's territory, so we either have to hide indoors or sit in the sun but with a lovely side serving of smoke.

I just don't understand how smokers can just not care about the consequences their habit has for people around them. You wouldn't fart in the middle of a bunch of strangers, would you?

You wouldn't fart in the middle of a bunch of strangers, would you?

Yes, but I would blame the baby