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To be so sick of cigarette smoke everywhere I go?

170 replies

WanderingNotLost · 14/12/2016 17:34

And I do mean everywhere. Walking to the train station, people walking ahead of me smoking and I can't avoid it. Walking into the train station, at least half a dozen people desperately puffing away before they have to get on a train for max. 25 mins. Breathing out the last cloud of smoke as they get on the train and then their breath stinks up the carriage. Lighting up as soon as they leave the station at the other end. Walking from the tube station to work. Outside the building entrance when I go out for lunch. Same story on my way home. When I'm at home, can't have the balcony door or any windows open as other people's smoke wafts in. If it's not cigarette smoke it's that sickly sweet vapour. I just hate it so much, and I'm so aware of how bad it is for people - and smokers choose to do it, the people around them have no choice about breathing it in. If it were up to me it'd be illegal.

And please, please, no ridiculous comparisons to exhaust fumes (not that I drive anyway). Cars etc at least have a highly useful function, they get you from A to B. Smoking has literally not one single redeeming quality to make it worth all the negative aspects.

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GlitterGlue · 14/12/2016 20:03

Well vaping can be equally vile. It's horrible being caught up in an enormous cloud of rhubarb and custard scented smoke, with the perpetrators waltzing round like put the bloody magic dragon. Young men dpseem to be the puffiest. HUGE clouds.

FruitCider · 14/12/2016 20:05

Young men dpseem to be the puffiest. HUGE clouds.

Im a woman in my 30s and I'm practically a steam train. Don't stereotype!

GlitterGlue · 14/12/2016 20:28

I'm not. It seems to be fashionable in my area for young men to be surrounded by clouds of smoke. Very, very rarely see women of any age doing it. Or older men. It's merely an observation on a local fashion.

bertsdinner · 14/12/2016 20:42

It seems to getting less where I work (large city), it is unpleasant being stuck behind someone smoking a cig, but I tend to encounter vaping more these days. Dont mind the vape as much, I dont think it smells particularly nice but nowhere near as bad as real cigarettes.
I find the clouds of "steam" vapers produce amazing, huge plumes.

cornflowerblu · 14/12/2016 20:45

I can't even remember the last time I smelt or came across cigarette smoke. I was just saying to my husband that it seems like nobody smokes anymore

gamerchick · 14/12/2016 20:51

Ah a smoking thread, it's been too long

frogsgoladidahdidah · 14/12/2016 20:52

I hate the way smokers all gather around doorways. So anyone who enters or leaves has to walk through it.

When I was pregnant, it actually made me vomit. Always managed to avoid the smokers with my aim though Grin

BasinHaircut · 14/12/2016 21:02

I said to DH literally last night, it's amazing that a few short years ago it was totally acceptable to sit in a restaurant and smoke whilst people were eating.

I also really appreciate being able to get a hangover nowadays without having to deal with smoky hair and clothes the next day - it always used to make me feel so sick.

I think we are all much more sensitive to it now that it's banned pretty much everywhere. I'm an expert smoker and I cannot bear walking behind someone who is smoking most of the time. sometimes it does smell delicious though

BasinHaircut · 14/12/2016 21:02

*ex smoker, not expert!

TitaniasCloset · 14/12/2016 21:38

Oh stop moaning, bunch of moaners. Yes YABVU.

As of 2014 smoking was banned anywhere in mental health facilities also. They used to have a small smoking section on the grounds of the hospital that very unwell patients could be escorted too by a nurse, or access by themselves if less unwell. Of course help to stop smoking or cut down is freely available and very much encouraged and has been for years.

Its well known that people with mental health issues smoke more than the general population and find it harder to give up and of the mentally unwell schizophrenics smoke more, most schizophrenics smoke actually. And they really don't know why as not enough research has been done.

So my point is, now thanks to the moaners/snobs/do gooders smokers who are put in hospital for severe mental health issues are now also deprived of their cigarette's at one of the most stressful tines in their lives, when they are already psychotic or suicidal. Its nuts. You really have to wonder about the empathy levels of those that brought it in.

So when I hear you anti smoke brigade throwing a fit because you walked past a smoker for five seconds I really have no sympathy anymore. You are being dramatic .

Sandsnake · 14/12/2016 21:48

YANBU. I've really noticed it since returning back to work in London after mat leave. Outside the station and on the busy streets as I walk to work - not pleasant.

Bumbleclat · 14/12/2016 21:55

TitaniasCloset My mum was schizophrenic and never smoked.

Interesting POV though, I agree that it's a nice comfort for some people who find life difficult.

Its horrible to wash your hair then walk out of a shop and get covered in smoke and have to rewash it and clothes.

Tiniti · 14/12/2016 21:55

Titania really interesting point. I've been sectioned a few times first time I went smoking was my only pleasure. Looking back, had instead of smoking I was offered nicotine replacement and some proper therapy and alternative activities to do other than smoking then it wouldn't be quite so bad. smoking actually can affect lots of psychiatric medication, and leads people to have to have a much higher doses. Also people's mental health problems smoke so much, that is likely to kill them much more than the normal population. So in fact tackling smoking would be a good thing. Also in my experience being drugged up for the first week of admission meant that I barely smoked so would've got through the worst bit is the withdrawals.

But in reality mental hospitals are so fucking shit and there is so little to do there, and there is virtually no actual therapy that people wouldn't get any support to stop smoking.

That all said the hospital I was in most recently allowed smoking in the grounds, just not inside. So not convinced they banned it.

TitaniasCloset · 14/12/2016 22:02

They banned it in October 2014 but I think they are finding its just not workable, which i could have told them and did many times surprised that they let you smoke on the grounds. At the hospital I usually go to they had a lovely little smoking section in the garden but since the ban people have to go out the front door and sneak around the car park, completely pointless and actually dangerous. Maybe its just London hospitals?

FruitCider · 15/12/2016 06:40

As of 2014 smoking was banned anywhere in mental health facilities also.

Not true, in my area wards still have temporary smoking licenses for the garden until march 2017.

People with severe and enduring mental health problems purchase 43% of all tobacco and cigarettes in the UK.

Yes, the issue needs to be sensitive, but really, not pushing for people to stop smoking is the largest contributing factor to why people with SMI have a life expectancy that is 10-20 years shorter than average.

ash.org.uk/information-and-resources/reports-submissions/reports/the-stolen-years/

MollyHuaCha · 15/12/2016 07:18

Smokers puffing away next to the no smoking sign outside hospital main entrance. No choice but to pass through the fug. Sad

gamerchick · 15/12/2016 08:08

The MH hospital I visit regularly banned it as well. Solitary was full for a bit.

It never gets mentioned now, nicotine replacement was given and they were all weaned off it.

Personally I thought it was a cruel move taking something like that away from people stuck in those places.

EasternDailyStress · 15/12/2016 08:15

Sorry but the world doesn't revolve around you.

Ridiculous thing to say, considering there are a fraction of the smokers there were 20 years ago. Get over it.

myfavouritecolourispurple · 15/12/2016 08:24

It's fantastic that you don't experience it but imo it is different in the city

I go to London frequently. I walk from Waterloo to the area near St Pauls and sometimes down Fleet St/Strand back to Charing Cross and over to Waterloo. Still don't experience it other than the odd person hanging around an office doorway.

However, I'm rarely there at night and I rarely use the tube.

Lokisglowstickofdestiny · 15/12/2016 08:26

Smoking is rarer these days, I certainly don't encounter the number of smokers that the OP does. But that means when I do get stuck behind a smoker I really notice it far more than I used to and it's a vile smell. Vaping, if it helps people quit I'm all for it, not been bothered by clouds of it, I do suspect though that in the next few years there will be dire health warnings coming about it as they discover that it's not that good for you!

supermoon100 · 15/12/2016 08:29

Smoking is a dumb thing to do and then throwing the butts on the ground, pretty selfish

WanderingNotLost · 15/12/2016 08:32

Eastern just because things are better than they used to be doesn't mean they're good. And no, I won't "get over it". Why the fuck should I have to get over being forced to inhale toxic fumes whenever I venture outside?

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Captaintango · 15/12/2016 08:33

You can't go jogging incase there is a smoker?
Really?! I think you are being a bit of a drama llama about the actions of other people! Butt out... no pun intended.

EasternDailyStress · 15/12/2016 08:40

But you don't; I rarely encounter any smokers when I go out these days. I don't like cyclists getting in my way while driving, or people who spit in the street or Brexit ... But we all have to live alongside others and live with the consequences of their actions. Buy a treadmill if you can't run "safely" in the outside world.

expatinscotland · 15/12/2016 08:44

Get over yourself. You make it sound like you live in Thailand.

'a lot of them smoke weed as well (partly social housing) '

Hmm
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