To be mildly irritated by most tiring job ever?

[brasty]

A friend who is a teacher has been saying how exhausted she is, and that only other teachers would understand. She is not joking. AIBU to be mildly irritated by this? Yes teachers do a hard job, but there are other jobs that are also exhausting.

Again with the holidays! I have marking and planning to do over Xmas holidays. So, not much of a holiday!

No not now. But that did not used to be the case. Lots of teachers did used to have a long break over the holidays.

Actually fulltimeMummy I did home-school, a child with ASD and complex needs. I wasn't talking about all teachers if you read my post properly, I actually appreciate how hard the job is but was talking about people such as my sister who claim that nobody is as hard done to as her because she has the hardest job in the world (these were words used by her - that teaching is the hardest job you could do - which quite frankly I don't believe, nurses and doctors (especially those that work in paediatrics with sick and dying children), and child protection social workers have a much harder, more exhausting job in my opinion).

Hang on. Are you moaning about teachers moaning back in the 80s now brasty?

Should noone who gets more than 28 days holiday be able to complain about their workload?

Teachers get 6 weeks paid and 6 weeks unpaid leave. Would other professionals be happy to work through both paid and unpaid leave (assuming they could get it of course) just to get their core job done?

I don't understand why it's worth all this angst. If you're reading this thinking teachers are lazy and don't know they're born, please feel free to train up. The profession is desperate for more people to want to do it. Especially those who won't bat an eyelid over the hours, pay or stress.

I work in hospitality and it really is exhausting!
I work long hours and late into the night, have a long journey home and then my daughter gets up at 6.30,
I know it's my choice but teachers aren't the only tired ones out there!

I posted this as a moan, but certainly did not expect this thread to garner more than a few posts. It did irritate me when my friend said this, because I am on my knees with exhaustion.

I know it's my choice but teachers aren't the only tired ones out there!

Arrrgghhhhh!!!

I must now leave this thread.

Did she actually say it's the most tiring job ever? (As per your thread title)

Or is that just you?

If she's saying she's exhausted - well everyone I know who's a teacher says this, especially round Christmas time.

I don't think they're necessarily complaining it's the most tiring job ever though, or the only tiring job, and neither by the sound of it is your friend.

Well Bratsy tell her how tired YOU are. She should surely sympathise.

Out of curiosity. To the teachers on the thread. Do you find it harder to do work during the Christmas holidays? In my head I'm imagining that being disciplined to do work in the other holidays must be easier since there's not lots of family type tuff going on.

Yes she did say it was the most tiring job ever. Of course everyone complains about being tired sometimes.

Frikadela-I tend to pick days and just shut myself away and work, much like other holidays.

Can I just ask teachers on this thread-does any teacher here think they have the hardest job in the world or is more exhausted than anyone else doing a different job?

I have never actually heard a teacher actually say or express this.

Roll, thank you.
I don't, it's a different kind of stress but I couldn't say that it was more stressful.
The issue I have is using this thread as another stick to beat teachers with.
I can imagine the stress in some schools may be terrible and perhaps I am writing this from a better position ?

I'm a TA and I'm soooo tired! We've had a Christmas fair that needed stuff making to sell, then
this last couple of weeks I've been making set and props for the school nativity, whilst also helping to organise children in the play, in between doing my actual job of supporting children's learning.( Yes, we still do maths and literacy every day, and topic work, despite what most parents think).
It may not sound much,but you try doing it. I've earned my fortnight off!

Frik I will have 220 GCSE mock exam papers to mark over Christmas. Each one taking 6 minutes to mark. They have to be reported the first day back. I have no free time at or after school with concerts/parents eves etc.
Roll I don't think any teacher has said that on here. Many have said it is a different type of exhaustion that is felt and I agree 100% with that.
There has been a lot of rubbish spouted on here by people who had a great aunt who was a teacher or who have 'loads' of friends who have an easy life ...

Frika I'm planning to work Wed to Fri (full days) on planning before DP finishes work for Christmas. He's then out one night between Christmas and New Year so I'll do some work then - I'd find it very difficult to work and be extremely grumpy if I was working and he was enjoying an Xmas movie with a mince pie, so I need to get it out of the way before he's off.

Jaim we don't finish till 23rd!!

Piece Urgh- that's awful! I'm running on empty with four days to go...
Fortunately, the students also seem exhausted and so are very compliant.

brasty you have continued to ignore direct questions about what you do. It is really difficult to conclude if YABU or YANBU if you won't disclose what you do as a job/profession!
You don't sound like a very sympathetic friend.
Teaching is probably a bit like having a baby - however much people tell you how tiring it is, you never really appreciate it yourself until you have a baby yourself. Then you are like "oh now I know why everyone jokes about being knackered once they have had a baby"

OP: teachers are u/r to complain no one else understands how tired they are
Teachers: we are tired because of X, Y and Z
Non-teachers: that can't be true/that's just you being a bit crap/how can it possibly take that long/I know a teacher who does all that in a third the time who is actually a sex worker
Teacher:

Well it's fine. All you people that cannot see how hard it is to be a teacher, I'm sure your children will all be fine in 5 years time when the current recruitment/retention crisis is 10 times worse than it is now, and your children are being 'taught' by unqualified staff, mostly by watching videos on tablets, or online questions/testing.
The situation in some schools is becoming ridiculous, and it's your children that will suffer.
If you do not value teachers and education, it will be destroyed.

This.......OMG this!!

Sprinkle, I'm guessing you were paid far more, for a senior corporate position? That has to be taken into account as well.
No, the pay is completely irrelevant if the point you are discussing how tiring a job is!
Sprinkle your experience chimes with others I know who have come into teaching after another career. I don't moan about tiredness because I know what the world is like outside - and not just in the public sector as others have said. People with outside experience seem better able to resist pointless timewasting and negotiate better working conditions. I and others have done this - academies and free scholls make it possible, so a good thing that LAs are losing their hegemony and schools are free to be more flexible - eg taking on experts who do not need 'crowd control' to take small groups of 6th formers..Ad 33k is definitely not the limit for a job without extra 'responsibility' - I am paid more than this on a teaching contract where I specifically excluded tutor groups, clubs and duties, as I want to teach my subject he same as is normal in most other countries.
As others have said, if your job is to tiring, negotiate better conditions or leave.

Can you give an example of "pointless time wasting" and also how you go about negotiating better working conditions?

You have posted on here before, Mrs Guy about how you have negotiated a teaching role without a form/clubs/duties etc and suggest that other teachers who find their jobs stressful or tiring, to leave or do the same.

Someone still has to do all those other (time-consuming and stressful) parts of teaching though! Form tutors are needed. Duties still need to be covered.