£5 note contains animal fat. For vegetarians and vegans

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news.sky.com/story/vegan-campaigners-demand-animal-fat-removed-from-new-1635-notes-10676891

I hope this raise awareness.

I am not a vegetarian but people who choose to be should know that bank notes be aware.

My favourite foods are meat based, but I find this shocking. Just as I can choose to eat/handle animal products, other people should be able to opt out of that if it is important to them.

I prefer to buy/eat free range meat. I want the animals I consume to have had a healthy and natural life. I don't want to be forced into supporting factory farmed meats. I am assuming that the new notes are not produced from animal friendly facilities?

I appreciate we probably don't share the same views but I think 'get a life' is uncalled for. When something you do your very best to avoid has to be used in day to day life i think it's ok to be disappointed by this, and wish it could be different.
I don't lecture people about their choices - I'm not that sort of person - but this isn't something that a person can quietly opt out of as there is only one currency in the UK.

How do they plan to deal with the issue in a couple of years time when all notes will be the new plastic ones? I mean it's one thing to swap a note for £5 in coins, but can you imagine how weighed down they'll be if they want to carry £20 in coins? And ATMs only give out notes, and I doubt many businesses will be willing to change £10/20+ into coins just because there's a bit of animal fat used in the notes.

I had a customer come into the store I work in today and ask us to change 6 £5 notes for coins as she was vegan and didn't want to touch them ... I had to refuse because that would have wiped out the till of change and we compromised on on me taking 2 of them for coins and swapping the other 4 for two £10 notes. The customers waiting behind her in the queue were all giving her weird looks and as soon as she walked out they were all commenting on hiow weird it was.

Surely this is mainly a story for the evolutionary aspect.

I had a customer come into the store I work in today and ask us to change 6 £5 notes for coins as she was vegan and didn't want to touch them ... I had to refuse because that would have wiped out the till of change and we compromised on on me taking 2 of them for coins and swapping the other 4 for two £10 notes.

Surely you didn't have to do that? You're not a bank.

This is ridiculous. From what I've read the old notes contained the same compound and no one fussed about that.

Why do people display such vitriol towards vegans and vegetarians? It's totally baffling that what someone else chooses not to eat can bring out such a strong reaction in people.

Why do people display such vitriol towards vegans and vegetarians? It's totally baffling that what someone else chooses not to eat can bring out such a strong reaction in people.

Perhaps it's because some of them can be insufferably self-righteous about it.

CockacidalManiac I agree with you that we don't have to ... but it's good customer service.

Management likes us to honour customer requests if possible, so if someone needs £1 for the trolleys, £5 in coins for the passport photo machine or the cash machine is only dispensing £20 and they really need a £10 note then they can come to my customer service desk and, providing it won't wipe out my entire till, I'm told to just do the swap.

I had one customer today who wanted the swap purely because they are vegan, as opposed to it being a practical reason needing coins, I can't imagine they're the only one who will be in ...

I imagine your management is going to have to develop a specific policy on this quite soon.

I'm veggie but have yet to see a new fiver.

Aside from the veggie aspect I wonder how people who are veggie or against use of beef products for religious reasons are viewing this news?

Refusing to touch the notes seems pretty silly unless you also refuse to touch all plastics (as most are made with the same tallow).

Tallow is a major constituent of most fabric conditioners too. Another reason to stick to white vinegar.

I've got no beef with it.

I'm vegan and can honestly say I don't care a jot about this. There are animal products in so many things we wouldn't think there are. We do our best, we don't have to be perfect. I would rather it wasn't the case (as I would rather my non-leather shoes weren't held together with glue) but that's as far as it goes.

Most vegans or vegetarians are not insufferably self righteous. Mostly they get hell from others asking them why they don't eat xyz, or if they do eat abc.

I'm a meat eater who doesn't eat shell fish, veal or offal and lots more, nobody gives me a hard time over it.

Are most mainstream brand condoms vegan yet?

Not a vegan, or vegetarian, but I read an interesting article about how its almost impossible to be 100% animal product free in the modern world. It said that as long as one does as much as one can to avoid animal products while not affecting ones health or wellbeing (including financial) then thats enough.

Handling fivers, especially in retail, hospitality and banking, is virtually impossible, but according to that article is ok within vegan principles.

Avoiding handling fivers...

Bogeyface that sums it up nicely

Most vegans or vegetarians are not insufferably self righteous

So how do you know if someone is vegan?
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JOKE!

That really was a joke against the joke iykwim! Genuinely no offence meant :)

The daily mail will be harping on about how they aren't halal shortly.

Fuckers.

Yea I try my best to keep my use of animal products to a minimum but also realise it would be impossible to avoid altogether.

As a rebuttal to the 'how do you know they're a vegan' joke there's vegan/veggie bingo on the questions we're asked upon people discovering the fact

'But aren't your shoes/belt/handbag leather?'

'Is that sweater wool?'

'Do you use shampoo/conditioner/fabric conditioner/wd40/etc?'

'Do you have a pet?'

'What about medicines and animal testing?'

And my personal favourite

'Well if you don't eat meat you must not do bj's'

'Well if you don't eat meat you must not do bj's'

Do people really say that?! Fuckwits.

I would like a definitive ruling on eggs though. And wool for that matter.

If a genuinely happy hen is pecking around and not getting pregnant and laying her unfertilized eggs, is that ok by vegans, given that they are not farmed and are a natural by product that would otherwise be wasted, or not? And wool too. If happy sheep need shearing (I dont know about shearing but I always assumed it was done for sheeps comfort as much as for the wool) then would it be ok to use the wool?

The by products of animals that dont involve farming, discomfort or death of the animal seem ethically ok to me from a vegan pov, but as I said I am not vegan so am probably wrong!