To not want to leave a tip ?

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Went for a meal tonight nothing fancy just pizza and my friend seemed mortified that I didn't leave a tip. I was paying for our meal and I generally don't leave tips. Ive never left a tip for anyone actually not taxi drivers, hairdressers, waiters is that mean of me ?

I don't understand tipping.

You do a job for an agreed wage. You get paid that wage.
A customer pays for an item/service for an agreed price. They pay the price.

I don't tip and I'm not arsed what anyone thinks

If you never struggle to get a table is that because you announce on arrival you intend to tip??? Because how would they know since tipping happen at the end?

I don't tip and I'm not arsed what anyone thinks

I have friends like you and while I think 'I wish they would tip' I just make up their share of the tip and get on with our night out. I still like them, it doesn't change anything.

I don't get why people get so annoyed about other people who choose to tip.

frikadela01 Don't you have regular service providers you use, regular great restaurants you patronise? Surely your bin men and post men are regularly teams that work your address?

I'm not tipping to help them out, their career choice and salary is not my business. I'm tipping to acknowledge and thank them for their service.

Which is fine, if a bit arbitrary.

But you've accused other posters of being "mean" and "stingy" for not doing so.

No-one "acknowledges" me in my non mw job. Lots of people in MW occupations are not tipped or "acknowledged". Why should waiting staff be over and above others?

And if "acknowledgement" of service is the name of the game, there are other ways to do this that don't involve tipping. Ie, saying "thank you", being polite, etc.

I'm not tipping to help them out, their career choice and salary is not my business. I'm tipping to acknowledge and thank them for their service.

Which is fine, if a bit arbitrary.

But you've accused other posters of being "mean" and "stingy" for not doing so.

No-one "acknowledges" me in my non mw job. Lots of people in MW occupations are not tipped or "acknowledged". Why should waiting staff be over and above others?

And if "acknowledgement" of service is the name of the game, there are other ways to do this that don't involve tipping. Ie, saying "thank you", being polite, etc.

Because very, the world is not fair and it is not black and white and as much as you want to sit on a forum and lament how it should be fair and black-and-white that will not make it so.

It will only make you frustrated because you're trying to force a square peg into a round hole and it doesn't work.

I don't get why people get so annoyed about other people who choose to tip.

I haven't come across anyone who gets annoyed about someone else tipping.

You, on the other hand, have called people who don't do so "mean" and "stingy".

That indicates a certain level of annoyance towards non tippers.

"Tipping is a ridiculous practice that seems to be on the increase"

It will only make you frustrated because you're trying to force a square peg into a round hole and it doesn't work.

I'm afraid I can't see how your post relates to the points made in mine.

Yes I do and they all provide a very good level of service without me having to bribe them.

But you said you never struggle to get a table which means in all establishments not just ones you frequent regularly. Pedantic I know but there you go.

Because you're whining that it's not fair some people get acknowledged/tips for their jobs and other people don't.

Yes that is pretty pedantic I would say.

No I don't tip. Have eaten out with more people who don't than do. Maybe it depends where you live....

Tipping is a ridiculous practice that seems to be on the increase

Whoever said that referenced a practice they found ridiculous, not a person.

You, on the other hand, referred to posters on this thread who don't tip as "stingy" and "mean".

I'm glad you agree. Is there any reason you just quoted me out of nowhere?

I didn't realise it was you it was the first example in the thread of somebody getting annoyed about other people tipping.

Because you're whining that it's not fair some people get acknowledged/tips for their jobs and other people don't.

I'm not "whining" about anything. But I see you're not going to engage with the points raised.

Care workers deserve tips more than waiters/waitresses and hairdressers, IMO.

But, you know, it's not the done thing so let's forget about them and the fact that they're hideously underpaid.

The reason why I never tend to do tip is that having worked in such places myself, my experience is that the greedy restaurant owners tend to keep all these tips for themselves, particularly if they are left on the table.

It's worth bearing in mind that unless you give the tip to the person who looked after you - into their hand they will not necessarily be allowed to keep it. And since I pay by card 99% of the time I can't do this. I certainly don't see why I should line the pockets of a business owner further than buying food there, although I completely get why people on minimum wage need tips.

I believe if you go for a sit down meal with service, and get good service, and you don't acknowledge the waiter for going beyond what is expected then that's your prerogative.

If you try and try to justify it with reasons and excuses piling up, you are appearing mean, and stingy.

But I see you're not going to engage with the points raised.

Your posts are very wordy (actually we are all a bit less than concise here tonight!) but I thought I had covered everything you had raised.

I pay by card but I have cash to personally give that to the waiter/waitress. Sortged.

"Sorted" even

I do the same - and I always ask 'do you keep your own tips'.

Generally they keep percentage of them and give a percentage to the kitchen and the bar staff.