To wonder when Mumsnet stopped being a place for mums?

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I used to frequent the site years ago and have come back recently because I became a mum again! However, whilst I am all for equality, the site seems to be full of people who aren't mums or aren't even parents! (and a good few who are journalists hunting for stories!).

I would never suggest anyone be excluded from the warmth, breadth of knowledge or bat shit crazy hysteria that the site offers, I was just wondering when it stopped being a place mainly for mums?

(I am not suggesting dads or non parents aren't welcome, just curious as to when the shift happened?).

What a nasty OP. This is what's wrong with MN recently. Hope you wake up today a little less bitter and entitled! You Having managed to carry a child doesn't preclude other people from using a free Internet forum! Ridiculous.. I blame Trump.

Good point - I may be a non parent or whatever but I would never use the term 'a bit rapey'

So OP you are not only goady, you are a rape apologist? Well I'm sure people would much rather have you on here as you are a mother than those nasty non parents who don't make apologies for rapists and tend to believe the victim.

Beat me to it again Livia

Oops - sorry

Did you ever consider the fact its a website with plenty of none parent related topics that has a high level of activity, and posters, be them parents or not, may simply be lonely and looking for social interaction?

I have PCOS and other hormone imbalances so i may not physically be able to have a child. Add in the MH issues that have crippled my entire life since childhood, and mentally i'm almost certainly unable to cope being a parent.

Finding sites with general chat topics that is very active is not easy, i put off joining here for months and just lurked threads because i was worried i'd be deemed "unworthy" to be here and post because of the fact i'm not, and likely never will be, a parent.

That doesn't mean i don't have a right to contribute to none parenting topics, it doesn't even mean i can't have an opinion on what i would do in a situation involving kids.

I have been here years and not once have I headed over to the parenting board... and yes, i do have kids.
You appear very narrow minded to how many different boards are on this site OP, both for parents and non parents.

It's a reasonable question, you could at least wonder why MN hasn't at least changed maybe not their name but their description if parenting is a topic at the bottom of the list.

The variety of topics is a very good thing, and the site can be entertaining. The problem is that some regular posters have a sense of entitlement and seem to believe they own the site, so are ready to jump on anyone. They are mainly in AIBU, where you can ask ANYTHING and someone will find a way to abuse you.

You have to take advice with a massive pinch of salt anyway, having no idea what the poster real id and life are, so it does't matter if people are parents or not. It is only annoying when someone without children (for any reason) lecture young mums with very strong views, what do they know. That said, SOME mums who had kids 20 years ago seem to have forgotten a lot, and are being very smug about new mums. Again, it's a public internet forum, at least half of the "advice" is to be ignored.

In support of the op:
Here we go again. One person posts a view and there is a rush to wilfully misunderstand her. She said nothing about people who are unable to become parents, nor about people who are struggling to conceive.
She was talking about people who come here to discuss their political / social views and to shout down anyone who may disagree with them.

I don't agree with the op - I couldn't give a monkeys chuff whether people on here have children or not.

But slagging off people for either having children or not is just daft.

And fwiw most of the more twattish posters on the site are parents for example.

To be fair, when I joined, it was because I thought it was a site for long-dead Egyptian rulers who'd been carefully embalmed. I was thrilled because, I mean, after a few thousand years of lying in that tomb by myself, some idiot triggered a curse and I woke up, but I couldn't find others of my kind! So I was thrilled to find a site for mums!

Alas, I read that one wrong.

But you guys have been pretty nice, so I've stuck around. As long as no one tries to steal my honey stash or golden scepter, we'll all be just fine. Juuuuuuust fiiiiiiiiiiiine.

OP what you are doing here is bad enough, but what you have done on another thread is despicable. People were trying to help a very vulnerable woman process the reality of her situation and I just hope your stupid, goady comments have not derailed it. It is frightening to think of you patenting, frankly. I think you should be banned.

She was talking about people who come here to discuss their political / social views and to shout down anyone who may disagree with them.

At no point in the OP did she say that. And is it only non parents who are obnoxious?

Given OP's other offensive posts on another thread she can't really complain about other people

Parenting! I am not so concerned about you patenting.

I think a wide range of posters is a good thing, adds different perspectives. There is also lots of threads on here that are nothing to do with parenting, from style and beauty to employment, property diy, legal matters etc.

I think it's good. I suspect it's still predominantly mums, but other than any journalists I think it should be a case of everyone welcome.

Can someone explain the link to the OP and the rapey comments.

I've never given a hoot whether a poster is a parent, non-parent, man, woman etc etc but I do care if a poster is a rape apologist.

There is a thread about a woman whose DP has sex with her when she's asleep and the OP of this thread has weighed in about it possibly being 'a bit rapey' but surely there had been S&M previously and how could the poor OP not have known instantly that the DP was having anal sex.

It's absolutely fucking awful and the OP should be ashamed of herself

Two threads! Why?

What Feeches & Livia said I would far rather someone had a sensible opinion to offer, whether they were a parent or not, than ignorant, goady and insensitive bullshit.

This is the thread where the OP shows her true colours

Thank you Lavia I was very baffled. I've reread this thread a few times and now I realize it's not me being a bit thick!

Buster No it's definitely not you

Fear not vipers. I expect this will be deleted as the OP will think that somehow her opinions will "out her".

Which obviously, they do, just not in that privacy way.

Drusilla- yes, nothing worse than a favourite MNer thread, except possibly a subliminal one (where's X?) I always think if X had been that fond of you, you'd effing know where they were....

Of course having children, trying to have children or not having children doesn't change whether you are obnoxious.
I got the political and social views thing from the equality comment in the op.

That's a problem with MN these days - unless you are willing to be hung out to dry you should never quickly type out an op with one finger on your phone. Instead you should put as much thought and care into it as if you were drafting a legal ruling. Every word must be carefully chosen, every thought fully explained. Even then, someone will reply with a biscuit or a bit of name calling.