To think this is classic PFB?

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Friend just posted this photo on Facebook, with the caveat that she's got 6 weeks to go and wouldn't be "taking any risks" with her baby girl.

I'm confused as I got the whooping cough vaccine in pregnancy with a view that then I'd be protected and baby would get some antibodies too? Was that just 2012?

That made me laugh! Will visitors be expected to produce a certificates at the door?

It's funny op.

However in fairness my dd got whooping cough at 3 weeks and was very poorly. No idea where she got it from though.

I am beyond glad my pfb was born in 1989 pre Internet and FB and mobiles.

Much easier to parent then I think than wen had last in 2001.

Violet maternal vaccination does protect the baby, but it seems there is some uncertainty about quite how well and even more so about how long it protects them for.

Even if you were vaccinated in pregnancy you still wouldn't want your 4 week old to be coughed or sneezed on by somebody with hooping cough (and the early stages of hooping cough are pretty much the same as a cold, so they might not know they were infectious with anything "bad")

the half-life of passively acquired antibodies and the possible interference of these antibodies with subsequent active immunization are not fully understood

Advice I was emailed today regarding hand washing....

www.babycentre.co.uk/x1048243/is-it-true-that-people-should-wash-their-hands-before-holding-a-newborn?scid=gb_en_mbtw_pregnancy_preg38

The 'old friends hypothesis ' which is what everyone whitters on about when they talk about germ exposure, talks about much old parasites and worms etc being used to dampen down the immune system, preventing it from having an overreaction to allergens.

It in no way thinks giving newborns a cold is a good idea. Cold viruses are relatively newly evolved in the grand scheme of things anyway.

Hand hygiene is always a good thing.

And the baby centre website isn't exactly evidence based proof of anything!

most mums are vaccinated against whooping cough & this offers temporary immunity to the baby anyway

Just vomited a bit in my mouth. I hate it when people say "baby"

No one over here gets a whooping cough vaccination unless they're high risk, i.e., pregnant or a baby? I think they're quite right not letting people hold their baby without washed hands, but it's a bit twee

It is becoming a bigger trend in the USA to do this because there is a number of pertussis outbreaks.

I can't get too nauseated about it.

Mainly because I was an atrocious twat with pfb.

Weird cos mums get vaccinated at end of pregnancy to protect newborns against whooping cough, whereas whooping cough vaccination isn't very common in the general population (so few people will have been vaccinated..). m
Maybe she's got her wires crossed?

Not something I'd do, however I also wouldn't post about my friends in this way on a forum which I know will result in lots of derision about them.

Will there be inspections?

There is nothing wrong with this post. After having a baby who spent a month in neonatal, I found leaving such a clinical environment to go home very stressful. I didn't want my baby exposed to germs so I asked that anyone who wished to visit was healthy and that they washed their hands. People on this thread shouldn't be so critical.

Completely, absolutely, utterly bonkers....
Her children are going to be the ones who wear white clothes and are afraid to go near anything mucky - they'll probably gain less immunity than most other children.
What on earth has given her the idea to do this?

This is why children have more allergies and asthma these days than in the past. Not enough playing in the dirt and contact with other people and children. Over-protective mothers don't realise they're doing their child a disservice.

You better tell her that first vacs are 8weeks not 6weeks as her post says or she'll look a muppet at her nurse appointment....

Soo so it isn't. Newborns never have played in the dirt exposing a newborn to a load of germs makes it ill, not tough.

Once babies are capable of moving under their own power a few short months later there immune system has matured - then comes the time for playing in the dirt etc.

A friend of mine from Indonesia said her older relatives always say a baby shouldn't touch the ground until it's 80 days old... Makes a decent amount of sense...

*their immune systems

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I didn't mean newborns ought to play in dirt, but children in general! Worded badly. I just think babies are a lot tougher than mothers think.

Can someone pls tell me what is PFB?

Special that is interesting! Worms?!

Off to Google that Old friends hypothesis.

Generally on MN opinions spouted by people who don't read the thread before posting are opinions spouted by people who never research anything and think their own opinion/ something their mate or gran once said or they just heard somewhere and assumed was true must be true because it's their opinion/ something their mate or gran once said or they heard somewhere...

Soo have you read the posts on this very thread from parents whose older children are still suffering from affects of everyday illnesses picked up in the first week of life, including hooping cough and RSV, and the one poor poster whose baby died of RSV (which is harmless to older babies and children).