To think this is classic PFB?

[SamanthaBrique]

Friend just posted this photo on Facebook, with the caveat that she's got 6 weeks to go and wouldn't be "taking any risks" with her baby girl.

I thought mum was whooping cough vaccinated now so baby gets some immunity?

What is she going to do if she has a baby and a school/ nursery aged child!

i agree with her sentiment. but i am cringing. and i'd also stay away from her for a while, as i'd hate to be blamed for even the slightest snivel!

If she knows anti vaxers I think it's reasonable.

If it's just general bugs etc she doesn't really understand how the human immune system works.

Yes, that's PFB 😂

My sister's second child was seriously ill when he was born (in the US) and in order for me to see him when he came home from the hospital I had to have a flu jab, which I probably wouldn't otherwise have done. I wasn't otherwise asked about other vaccinations. I was happy to do it to see my nephew - his last couple of weeks in utero and his first couple of weeks after birth had been such a worry for all of us and we were just so relieved he was home.

toshelandback fair enough, I could be wrong. I'm going off what I've seen on the baby bumps community on Reddit, where people seem fanatical with checking people's vaccination status before they meet baby. Some even say they ask grandparents for proof! I'm guessing that's not representative of the US in general then.

FWIW, my DS is almost two weeks old and I wish I hadn't passed him about quite so much in his first week, as he's full of cold now and not sleeping well I think this is going a bit far though, surely small children inherit mum's immunity?

If I were to have another baby, I'd be tempted to do the same, tbh.

By the time number 3 came along I was oh-so-relaxed about germs and laughed at fussy PFBs.

Then she was hospitalised at 2 weeks with bronchiolitis and was very poorly. Had she not been born at term and a chunky monkey, the outcome could have been different.

I don't think reminding people that even common colds can be dangerous for new babies is a bad a thing, and I'd rather be laughed at than see a baby go through what No3 did.

Very PFB yes, but we've all been there. I cannot bring myself to judge as i'm sure I did worse.

I don't know what PTB means but jeepers.... I would have noooooo intention of meeting their baby

If you mean PFB, then it's Perfect First Born!

Ha, thanks Cookbook!

Meh, so she wants people to wash their hands before holding the baby and be vaccinated from anything horrendous. Isn't that what everyone with a baby wants? Do you go to your butchers and see him chopping some chicken and say "here, can you hold my newborn for a sec?" or perhaps pop to the local contagious diseases ward of the hospital and pass the baby round for a bit?

It's a bit odd to post it because you'd think people would do this anyway as basic common sense, but maybe her friends don't have any so she's making sure they get the message.

They may inherit mums immunity at the time though immunity wanes and can be a complex thing. Small babies don't have sinuses and have tiny passages so mild colds can be worse. It's a sign baby is building own immune system though.

Also, for example, a BF baby may get some mild immunity from mum via milk, and as a consequence might have an illness mildly but then get it again e.g. Chicken pox- but it's dependant on so many factors.

(They think manmary glands evolved from the immune system)

It's not the sentiment, it's the saccharine way of communicating it that's at issue. And the reality is, most adults don't regularly have vaccinations for whooping cough etc., so she is expecting people to seek out medical treatment just for the privilege of meeting her baby. Slightly OTT. I would just do as she suggests and leave them alone.

I wouldn't put it on fb but agree with the sentiment too, a lot of people think it's ok to kiss new babies, not bother washing their hands and stick their fingers in their mouths

What's wrong with kissing babies kay?

Ha that's fantastic

It's not the sentiment, it's the saccharine way of communicating it that's at issue.

Yes, precisely.

Tbh the bit about vaccines sounds sensible to me, especially if she knows anti vaxxers. There's some nasty shit out there that would be dangerous for anyone, esp a newborn.

Maybe it's American?

We spell "immunization" with a "z," not an "s." Unlikely to be American.

Maybe it's directed at someone in particular. It does sound American with the weird contrived (to a British ear) grammar - what tense is "we will be needing you to be..."? Future continuous with a twist? But maybe they've lifted a meme hoping a germ ridden anti vaccer relative will read it and they won't have to confront them personally about bringing their unvaccinated children to visit the newborn?

5 years? I'd have counted my vaccinations as up to date in that I've either had them all or have immunity from having had the illness.

But I haven't had any as an adult, am I supposed to?

I don't see the problem, although would have worded it differently. There was an outbreak of pertussis in our area and a friend's older baby was very seriously ill. Had he been a newborn I dread to think how it might have gone.

Baby won't be used to germs just yet. It's the good old I'm the first one EVER to have a baby malarkey, isn't it?
Saying that to people with children of their own is so unbelievably up your own arse

She doesn't just want then vaccinated though, she wants them to have had a booster within the last 5 years.

So that'll exclude all adults, other than those with private healthcare or who have had a baby since roll out of the jab during pregnancy.

Because the NHS doesn't do boosters.

I think she might be a little stir crazy after 6 weeks of no visitors....

Because going out wouid be far riskier in terms of encountering unfamiliar and potentially harmful germs.