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To think trump has broken most of his pre-ellection pledges so far and there should be a revote? still very 😭😭😭

59 replies

jdoe8 · 13/11/2016 20:04

He's backed down on just about everything that he was voted in to do! OK yes this usually happens, but over years. This has just been a few days. Surely he has broken some rules and there should be a re-vote?

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RobinHumphries · 13/11/2016 20:22

Well he did say it was going to be brexit plus plus plus and so far he is keeping that promise!

TheSnowFairy · 13/11/2016 20:24

Brexit weren't much slower (think NHS) - the appalling thing is that he was (and they were) believed in the first place Hmm

Pallisers · 13/11/2016 20:30

Remember George H Bush and "read my lips: no new taxes" (there were)

If there was another election every time a politician backtracked on his promises, we'd live in a permanent election cycle. And frankly, I think the USA would rather live with Trump than go through another one of those. I know I would.

Trump is the democratically elected president of the US. I don't like it but I accept it. Just like half of the people would be sucking it up if Clinton had been elected.

Most people didn't see this coming but that's the thing about democracy, it is messy and unpredictable.

And I do hope he backtracks on many of his promises. Better than implementing them all.

Although interestingly enough for the maverick who was going to smash the establishment and the elites, one of the first things he IS going to do is weaken the laws put in place to stop the elite establishment bankers going doo-lally again and triggering another 2008 crisis. Ah well. to be expected. I doubt we'll ever know where he really got his money/support.

EveOnline2016 · 13/11/2016 20:51

There will be in 4 years time.

He was fast at learning to be a politician lol

Snoozeandloos · 13/11/2016 20:55

I think there should be some rules about not being allowed to promise things you have no intention of delivering on.

The whole thing just becomes a farce otherwise, they could all just make up anything they liked and then what?

noblegiraffe · 13/11/2016 20:59

What are we going to build? A fence! Who's going to pay for it? Us!

Purplepicnic · 13/11/2016 21:02

Election promises are not legally binding. He won't end up doing half of what he said.

BreconBeBuggered · 13/11/2016 21:07

Let his voters decide how to deal with him. I'm sure they're all reasonable people.

pennycarbonara · 13/11/2016 21:11

It's what politicians do; they break promises. (So much for his lack of political experience.)

Also like this from a PP:
Well he did say it was going to be brexit plus plus plus and so far he is keeping that promise!

On the subject of anti-Trump protests:
I can understand having demos about Brexit because the referendum is treated as binding when it didn't have to be - but Trump is not an ambiguous and unique situation like the referendum. It is a clear election result using their electoral college system. Is this some kind of product of the social media age where even that has to be protested? Or am I missing the point that it's just a bonding and solidarity exercise for the Democrats who are shocked by the result?

dudsville · 13/11/2016 21:11

You can't judge politicians on what they say during elections. You have to look at the choices and decisions they've made in their lives up to now. He's being true to himself as far as I can see.

allegretto · 13/11/2016 21:14

Penny - I don't think it's wrong to protest a result, even it was a democratic result. You can still fundamentally oppose the values a person has. Hitler was democratically elected and people opposed him - should they have just said, "oh that sounds fair, then".

SoupDragon · 13/11/2016 21:14

Just like half of the people would be sucking it up if Clinton had been elected.

Apart from Trump who claimed he wouldn't accept that result. I would have liked to have seen that.

Piscivorus · 13/11/2016 21:14

For heaven's sake. You can't just keep redoing elections and referendums until you get the result you want. Voters have a duty to inform themselves and most know that all politicians lie so don't swallow it hook, line and sinker

Get over it

Redglitter · 13/11/2016 21:15

Oh what a shock to see the who the OP of this post is Hmm

Chippednailvarnishing · 13/11/2016 21:16

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

SilentBiscuits · 13/11/2016 21:17

The wall/fence thing is totally ridiculous and will never get funded.

Andy Borowitz (the comedian/satitist) wrote an article for the New Yorker saying "Country with crumbling roads and bridges look forward to new wall" or something. He is totally deluded and he won't be able to do most of the stuff he wanted to.

ReallyTired · 13/11/2016 21:17

Surely it's a relief that Trump has actually gone back on his more stupid promises. He realised that obamacare wasn't such a stupid idea, he realised that it cannot jail Hilary just to please voters.

If he ignores his election promises he might do ok as a president.

ITCouldBeWorse · 13/11/2016 21:20

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SilentBiscuits · 13/11/2016 21:20

I understand the protests. Clinton beat Trump by 630,000. The system is clearly flawed.

Redrocketship · 13/11/2016 21:20

Obama went back on lots of promises too, they all do. It's hardly grounds for another election

CaptainBrickbeard · 13/11/2016 21:22

Penny, the protesters are just making it clear that there is a lot of opposition to him in the country. They aren't expecting a re-do, but the right to peaceful demonstration is a very key part of democracy.

AnchorDownDeepBreath · 13/11/2016 21:23

There seems to be an awful notion at the moment that, regardless of how important the decision is, if you get it wrong or it doesn't go your way, you can just redo it.

That's not the way life works. You get one shot at these things, they require thought and attention. Everyone has to stand by their decision. There's no, "let's give this one a shot and rewind if it doesn't work".

It's astounding that it's taken two major political events and we still aren't understanding that.

RortyCrankle · 13/11/2016 21:23

Well he isn't actually President until January. Give him a chance to actually BE President before shouting about him failing. And of course there won't be a revote, that would be absurd. I'm guessing you wouldn't be so keen on a revote if dodgy Clinton won? No, thought not.

Pallisers · 13/11/2016 21:27

I understand the protests. Clinton beat Trump by 630,000. The system is clearly flawed.

But it is the system laid down in the constitution. It isn't the first time the popular vote departed from the electoral college.

Protests against his policies are fine by me - as Captain said, the right to a peaceful demonstration is key to democracy. Any protests or movements that have the aim of overthrowing the results of this legitimate election are not ok by me.

By the way, doesn't anyone wish that Cameron had reneged on his promise to hold a referendum?

Pallisers · 13/11/2016 21:29

It's astounding that it's taken two major political events and we still aren't understanding that.

Majority of the US understands it. Only tiny fringe elements would even talk about a re-do. This is it. Trump will be president. We have to deal with it. Loads of people I know are dealing with it by getting more involved on a local level in politics/civil rights/charities.

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