To think trump has broken most of his pre-ellection pledges so far and there should be a revote? still very 😭😭😭

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He's backed down on just about everything that he was voted in to do! OK yes this usually happens, but over years. This has just been a few days. Surely he has broken some rules and there should be a re-vote?

Anchor I am so with you. After Brexit I heard people say there should be another vote because some people didn't know what they were voting for. It's a democratic process, not a learning exercise!

I'm American and voted for him. We are delighted with the outcome. I know I'm stepping into the lion's den here, but a different opinion never hurts, does it?

Here's some of the things

Since the election, both Canada and Mexico said they are looking forward to working with him to renegotiate a fairer Nafta. Great news. The Democrats threw out TPP which they weren't crazy about anyway. More good news. He's already getting things done and he's not even sworn in yet.

A lot of people are worried about his immigration policies. They are accessible online and have been for a long time.

One of his first TO DOs on the list is to secure our southern border. Enforce immigration laws already in place to accomplish: 1) deporting violent criminals who have murdered Americans. 2) building a wall and yes Mexico will pay for it and stop the flow of illegal immigration that is not being stopped any other way and prevent the violent criminals from coming back in. 3) vetting people who want to come into the country. If you hate America and have terrorist ties or vetting isn't possible, you don't get in. 4) stopping the drug cartels that are killing Americans with heroin. 5) expedite the citizenship process so that illegal immigrants already here and who are law abiding otherwise can become citizens and the people who have been in line for years legally to become citizens will see justice in being able to become citizens faster too and no longer wait in line while others jump the line. And that expedited process will be permanent so that people who want to come will be able to in a timely and efficient manner 6) addressing Mexico's problems and our taking advantage of their workers which has led to the situation we're in. Mexico can be a country where people will not need or want to leave there for work and other reasons.

We are sick of the egregious crimes with people being deported 5 or 6 times after committing crimes and coming back in to commit more, many times murder, we're tired of the drugs and drug cartels, and the chaos. Violent criminals and drug dealers will no longer be welcomed in. Has nothing to do with where they're from, it has to do with what they're doing. If they've committed a violent crime or is a drug dealer, they're out of here.

Many Latinos and African Americans and gays voted for Donald Trump because we want somebody to do something about the murders and the drugs.

Off topic but Re the drugs thing above ^. A very high percentage of people who use heroin in the U.S., began by abusing prescription opioid painkillers. Prescription drugs kill more people than illegal ones. Something needs to be done about this and building a fence or a wall isn't going to stop it. We know Hillary was paid a lot by drug companies so probably would have done little to tackle the problem. I wonder what, if anything, Trump will do about it?

We are sick of the egregious crimes with people being deported 5 or 6 times after committing crimes and coming back in to commit more, many times murder, we're tired of the drugs and drug cartels, and the chaos

Where do you live? It sounds grim. Nothing like where I live in the US.

building a wall and yes Mexico will pay for it

I thought Mexico said fuck no they won't be paying. How will he make them pay for it?

How on earth does Trump propose to get Mexico to pay for the wall. Surely it's up to the US to police its boarders and pay for the wall/ fence if they want one.

Why do Americans object to Obamacare? Countries like the uk or Cuba with state funded health care enjoy a high standard of public health fir a fraction of the price. The NHS is far from perfect, but at least no one had to worry about a pre existing condition making them uninsurable. I find ur frightening that many children have no access to health insurance in the us.

I get the feeling that Trump has a lot to learn and will temper his outlandish ideas when he actually had to run a country.

Pallisers, I live in the southeast, how about you? I've seen the speeches of many parents of grown children murdered by people who were deported but came back in. It is heartbreaking and inexcusable. It is worth looking up these speeches and the news reports on the stats. Too many to shrug off. Some of these murders were very gruesome.

How will he get Mexico to pay for the wall? In his rallies he's always said it's not going to be an outright check and he explains the possible avenues.

Red, good point. He is determined to stop the drugs. Too many sad stories of addiction to ignore. He is going to help these people and he's going to focus on the inner cities too.

Everybody said he wouldn't be the nominee, then that he couldn't win. It wouldn't surprise me if he follows through. He's a worker.

Thanks for the civil replies. I wasn't sure what to expect.

Trump doesn't object to a national healthcare system. The one we have is not affordable or efficient but he will solve the problems so that it works well. It takes a while to tweak. It will always cover preexisting and extended coverage for children and eldercare. Affordable quality efficient with choices and affordable premiums, out of pocket, and prescriptions.

Pallisers, I live in the southeast, how about you? I've seen the speeches of many parents of grown children murdered by people who were deported but came back in. It is heartbreaking and inexcusable. It is worth looking up these speeches and the news reports on the stats. Too many to shrug off. Some of these murders were very gruesome.

I would love to see a link to these murders. I don't mean one murder - I mean the multiple ones you cite where people have been deported 5 or 6 times as you said and then come back and murder people. Can you give a link to all these murders (not just one).

I am in the northeast but go to Florida regularly (is that where you are?) and have family who live there.

Do you really live in a community which has been devastated by murdering illegal immigrants where the police do nothing?

I accept Trump as the next President and I hope he does well.

But I don't accept a narrative of murdering mexicans hopping back and forth over our borders without check.

The popular vote doesn't really mean anything. As unfair as it seems the difference in the popular vote is easily covered by California alone. I don't like it, but one state shouldn't be allowed to determine the outcome for the whole country.

LittleBeautyBelle I'd be interested in hearing your perspective on how he is now already backtracking on a whole range of issues (not going to abolish Obamacare, not going to build a wall, not going to seek Clinton's prosecution). Given his proven ability to lie in the campaign on top of this backtracking, are you at all concerned so far you won't get the things he's promised? If I'd voted for him I'd already be a bit miffed he was wimping out on his rhetoric.

He is going to send abortion law back to the States, and doesn't care if women who need an abortion have to travel to another state to get one, this will adversely affect poor women and those in abusive relationships. But gay marriage is staying.

And May can talk to him all she likes but she cannot make agreements with him until article 50 in invoked, otherwise she risks the UK incurring fines.

Gun laws are staying, which is another step in the wrong direction.

That's not the way life works. You get one shot at these things, they require thought and attention. Everyone has to stand by their decision. There's no, "let's give this one a shot and rewind if it doesn't work".

Erm, that's exactly how life works. Not that I'm advocating constant revotes, but elections and democracy in general work the way we tell them to, they don't follow some sort of natural law that "in life you only do things once, and if they go wrong you live with it." If people don't like the way something is going they have every right to protest about it and hope it gets done differently.

The scariest thing about Brexit and Trump is not the results, but that people don't believe in democracy anymore and that some people want to disenfranchise sections of the population who didn't give the "right" answer. This is the dangerous and scary outcome of the elections, not the results themselves.

" I don't like it, but one state shouldn't be allowed to determine the outcome for the whole country."

But that's exactly what happens in the electoral college system.

US presidents have been fighting a war on drugs for 40 years. It has been spectacularly unsuccessful. So it's great that Trump has come up with a simple solution that no-one else has thought of.

building a wall and yes Mexico will pay for it

Trump has had months to come up with a way of enforcing that payment that would actually work and has failed to do so. What has changed?

As for Trump coming up with a simple solution on drugs that no-one else has thought of: please tell me you're being sarcastic.

SerendipityPhenomenon he has stated numerous times that there are a range of ways the wall could be paid for - a tariff on Mexican goods that enter the US;a tax on remittances sent to Mexico from the US (earlier this year remittances overtook oil to become Mexico's largest source of income) for example.

Whatever you think of Trump I really would advise you to read his actual speeches or policy discussions rather than snippets regurgitated through the media. They are often quite different to what is described.

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Clinton won 20 states and DC, Trump won 29 states (one left still to declare). If you disregard the electoral college system and just voted on popular vote, those states that are less populated would have very legitimate argument that their voices don't count as much as those living in LA or NYC. It distributes who has a "say" in the country, across the country. I think the "Clinton won the popular vote" argument is a bit misleading anyway. She got 2.6 million more votes in California yet is only 600,000 or so ahead in the popular vote nationally. Take out that state and she got smashed both in terms of popular vote nationally and electoral college votes. In fact, just remove the city of LA and she would have lost the popular vote. I don't think that means America overall have her a ringing endorsement that was ignored, I think she just happened to do as well as expected in highly populated Democrat areas.

Interesting that little beauty below includes gay people in that list. I hadn't been aware of the huge issue of murder and drugs in the gay community. Is this a really big thing? (In SE perhaps? Does that mean Fla, TX, sorry don't know what is included in US SE)

Notbadconsidering Clinton did not get 'smashed' in other areas, it was very close in Florida and North Carolina. She would be POTUS if she won in those areas.

All politicians do this. Remember Tony Blair and the Lib Dems saying there would be no introduction of student university fees and then Labour brought them in almost a soon as elected and the Lib Dems did an about face once they had a bit of power. Clinton would have done the same. Obama was in office for 8 years and didn't seem to do much for the poor, downtrodden. They all say things to get into power and then backtrack as soon as they can. Perhaps what they say should be legally binding?

Many Latinos and African Americans and gays voted for Donald Trump because we want somebody to do something about the murders and the drugs.

And you're suggesting that HC doesn't want to do something about drugs and murders?

So the person who got the most votes lost the election, and the person that won lied to get in power and can now do whatever the fuck he wants.

Great system.

From what I read, more African Americans are worried about being murdered by the police than by illegal Mexican immigrants.