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for being bl***y LIVID with my mother?

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Callmemadam · 12/02/2007 22:18

My eldest ds (nearly 16) has a brilliant relationship with his youngest sibling (DD2, nearly 5). He and ds2 and dd1 are all away at boarding school, so this half term, as usual, dd2 was crawling all over her big brother, getting tickled, roughed up, having her toys played with, and generally having a riotous family time. Anyway, my mother came over on Saturday afternoon and saw ds1 playing with dd2 and rang him 'in confidence' later that evening to say that 'he should be careful that people didn't jump to the wrong conclusion' if they saw her 'crawling ' all over him . I am still so angry I can hardly speak, partly because I thought it was such a sick thing to say to ds, and partly because she bloody said it 'in confidence'!!! Thank God he was able to tell me why she phones. The sad thing is that - whatever he says - I can tell it HAS affected his relationship with dd2 . To put it in perspective, my siblings and I were brought up in a very non-tactile way, but even so I find the fact that she could come up with such a comment really upsetting................

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NotQuiteCockney · 19/02/2007 21:51

I remember having a bit of this sort of idiocy from my mother. I wanted to share a bed with my ten-years-younger niece, when we went camping. She said it wasn't appropriate or some such. I just went , and wasn't bothered.

She was a big one for twitching about 'inappropriate' relationships, of all sorts. I remember her coping very poorly with me flirting with her boss. (I was 12. He was in his 60s. And also gay as a box of frogs. And there was no physical contact!)

BandofMothers · 19/02/2007 21:51

I have read this thread with my mouth hanging open, but when I read your posting today my chin hit the floor.
Am also outraged for you.
My little brother is 21 and has a similar relationship with my DD1 (3 yrs). He picks her up, tickles her, hangs her upside down and all sorts. She LOVES it. What warped mind could see something perverted in such an innocent relationship.
Your poor DS. I hope he can put it behind him, but I think the visual that she put in his head might take time to go, if ever.
Gosh, I'm quite furious. He may not even be sexually active with girls his age but to put ideas like that in his head about his 5 year old sister is disgusting.
If she doesn't think there is anything wrong with what she said, print this thread and post it to her. Cos I agree with others that she shouldn't see your dc's until she can behave properly to them.

LowFatMilkshake · 19/02/2007 21:57

Have read all the threads and cannot belive your update of her second chat with your son! What a revolting, poisonous thing to say to her own grandson!

I would be inclind to refuse her any access to your children.

Tell her you will sepnd time with her, but until she understands that this is your family and that you actively encourage the wonderful relationships and play between your children it would be 'inappropriate' for her to have any further contact with them.

And it would'nt hurt to point out that your son's opion of her has now chaged too - all her own doing!

Oh I am so cross for you.

LowFatMilkshake · 19/02/2007 22:01

FWIW, as a child I had a similar relationship with two male cousins (all my cousins are at least a decade older than me)
One would come stay when home on leave from the RAF and the other's mum used to babysit me.

I idolised them and loved being the centre of thier atention. When I got older I really missed the fun we had - but a 10 year old is'nt half as cute as a 5 year old! You need to make sure your sons relationship with his litle sister remains as close and strong as ever!

Muminfife · 19/02/2007 22:01

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madamez · 19/02/2007 22:05

CMM I do sympathise and would strongly advocate taht you don't let your mum have any unsupervised access to your DCS.
SOmething bad has happened to your mother, probably in her own childhood, possibly (and please note that I am by no means acusing anyone in your family, none of whom `I have ever met, of anything, just considering what info there is from your posts) from one of her siblings or indeed her parents, and she's probably never been able to talk about it or seek help, but her attitude is very warped. However, that's not the fault of your DS and not something he should have to bear the burden of. When you're talking to him, it might help to give him the impression that Granny is unhappy, and that it's not really about him, and that she kind of can't help it.
If you are (quite understandably) too appalled at what your mum is doing to want to discuss it with her, is there another family member who might be able to gently persuade her to talk to someone impartial about her own difficulties?

dassie · 19/02/2007 22:28

I'm really shocked and really sorry for you and your son. However, you obviously have such a good relationship with him and I'm sure you will help him through his distress.

Re your mother - you were right to confront her and whilst she obviously thinks she is right, you need to keep challenging her and you need to tell her that she is not to speak to your son about anything like this. it is your job as a mother to decide what he needs to know - not hers as a grandmother. And I would keep a close eye on how she talks to your daughter as she gets older too.

Kids, and a 16 year old can still be child, should not be exposed to this sort of thing.

Callmemadam · 19/02/2007 22:40

Yeah, Muminfife said she had felt 'violated'and I've just realised that that is how DS must have felt yesterday, hence the tears.

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tearinghairout · 19/02/2007 22:56

I agree with Dassie, and there are some other good points too - keep a bit of distance from her for a bit; she needs to understand that she's been out of order, that she does not know best for your family, you do. Your ds needs to know that you take his side against hers. Can you leave this to blow over & then casually say to him 'Give her a bath, will you?' and 'act normal'- I hope so.

My own mother went against me when my dts were born (long story)but I know she was misguided, and loves them, & it's all forgotten now. (But not quite by me!!)

LRWG · 21/02/2007 12:09

Callmemadam - I've only just seen this thread. Hugs to you and your DS. I hope that you can help him come to terms with his warped Grandmother (sorry I know sh'es your Mum) and that his relationship with his baby sister isn't damaged.

crustonbread · 08/09/2022 14:41

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Rinatinabina · 08/09/2022 14:44

Just wtf, thats an awful thing to say, your poor son.

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MikeWozniaksMoustache · 08/09/2022 14:47

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Thanks for reviving a 15 year old thread for that insight. The daughter is the same age as the son now, this hardly needs commenting on @mnhq

maddy68 · 08/09/2022 14:51

Callmemadam · 12/02/2007 22:18

My eldest ds (nearly 16) has a brilliant relationship with his youngest sibling (DD2, nearly 5). He and ds2 and dd1 are all away at boarding school, so this half term, as usual, dd2 was crawling all over her big brother, getting tickled, roughed up, having her toys played with, and generally having a riotous family time. Anyway, my mother came over on Saturday afternoon and saw ds1 playing with dd2 and rang him 'in confidence' later that evening to say that 'he should be careful that people didn't jump to the wrong conclusion' if they saw her 'crawling ' all over him . I am still so angry I can hardly speak, partly because I thought it was such a sick thing to say to ds, and partly because she bloody said it 'in confidence'!!! Thank God he was able to tell me why she phones. The sad thing is that - whatever he says - I can tell it HAS affected his relationship with dd2 . To put it in perspective, my siblings and I were brought up in a very non-tactile way, but even so I find the fact that she could come up with such a comment really upsetting................

My daughter had the same. She was very close to my much younger brother. (9 yrs apart) Someone said something about it being inappropriate and he literally stopped seeing her by himself. Ruined their lovely relationship.

People can be so weird and assume the worst without understanding family dynamics

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