to feel annoyance when my childless colleagues keep saying how tired they are?

[sandyballs]

They don't know the meaning of the word

Zombie

Zombie

Zombie

Zombie

Zombie

Zombie

Zombie

read the date people.

Zombie ZombieZombieZombieZombieZombieZombieZombieZombieZombieZombieZombieZombieZombie

And people with chronic health conditions probably think that we don't know what we're talking about when it comes to tiredness. It's all relative.

Ridiculous thing to say.
I have no children but I am currently nursing my dying gran and trying to work at the same time.
Don't I know the meaning of the work tired?

I never slept better than when I had 2 young DC. They didn’t wake in the night or particularly early and I myself slept well every night.

Now they’re grown up and I’m in my 50s and menopausal, I am shattered! Oh how I wish I could sleep like I used to. I am awake numerous times in the night, can’t remember when I last woke up feeling “rested”.

Having kids doesn’t give you the monopoly on tiredness.

Frankly? ignore it
You're tired. They're tired. It's not a competition.
You chose to have children. They could be tired for any number of reasons.

HTH

I reckon tiredness expands to fill the time available sometimes & people can feel tired without having children for many reasons so I am not sure children / no children is the arbiter of how tired one can feel.

YABVU. And everyone who agrees with you, sorry but you're unreasonable too.

I have insomnia and if a parent, who chooses to have children, begrudged me mentioning being tired, I'd have some very harsh words to say. I've struggled for YEARS with insomnia and it's affected me in all sorts of ways, but I don't get pissy about others who say they're tired or try and gatekeep who's allowed to be tired. Life is hard and it's tiring, end of.

TBH, this kind of attitude is toxic af. Why is it a competition? People have the right to be tired regardless of their situation. You don't know what people are going through and even if their tiredness is "self inflicted", as another poster suggested, you could argue the vast majority of people who choose to have kids have inflicted that on themselves, too. Now, doesn't that sound ridiculous? Yes? Well it goes both ways. Get off your high horses.

You get my first ever ODFOD!

1. anyone can be tired.
2. tiredness is often a symptom of quite a few mental and physical illnesses! Depression, thyroid issues, SAD, chronic fatigue, chronic pain.
3. Age alone can make you tired.
4. You chose to have kids so you don’t get to complain now, everyone knows they come with a lack of sleep! Self-inflictes.
5. Not all people without children chose to be that way, for some of us it is a life-ruining tragedy.

So ODFOD. Here’s a 🍪

People without children are allowed to be tired , I have insomnia, lucky to sleep 3 hours a night.
Someone with kids who sleep will get more than me.

TBF after 15 years the kids have grown into teenagers and the OP is likely to be getting full nights sleep again

As someone with multiple children I don’t understand why so many parents moan about situations that are self inflicted… being tired from choosing to have kids is exactly the same as being tired from choosing to party all the time.

YABU

You were probably that person once though, I know I was before kids

Haha I used to be like that and complain all the time about being tired (hungover) pre children when I had a social life. Now I know 🤣

Wow, moms in 2007 were some serious bitches!
Talk about being nasty towards other (childfree) women!

This woman is probably up all night worrying about her 18 year old being out drinking now. Hope you get some sleep some day, it'll probably be menopause keeping you awake next 🤣.

Given these threads are so old, but you can still post on it, do you weirdly feel you’re taking to someone in the past?

Yes, I know it’s a zombie thread and I also remember being here on mumsnet back in 2007 but wow wee the tone of responses and comments really has changed hasn’t it??

Childless people are allowed to be tired…. Bloody hell.

People without children aren't allowed be tired now? umm OK.......

@BomboChipolata

it’s weirder when you see yourself on these old threads! Makes you cringe, a bit like listening to your own voice on video

Oh crap 2007? Who bumped this and why?!! :P YABU

How funny seeing this crop up with my old name!

The DDs are 21 now and I’m getting lots of sleep 🤣. I do think I was a bit unreasonable reading this back but I was obv very tired despite my twins being 6 and not newborns!!

I have a friend who attempts this kind of oneupping all the time.

"God, I'm knackered."

"Well, I don't know why. I was batchcooking all day yesterday, I didn't get till bed till one, and then I had to get up to go to a boot fair at six."

"Er...does my tiredness not count if you're tired?"

Same goes for miserable, ill, broke, overworked, stressed. She's always more whateveritis than anyone who mentions that they're whateveritis.

So, yeah, I do think you're being unreasonable, OP.