to feel annoyance when my childless colleagues keep saying how tired they are?

[sandyballs]

They don't know the meaning of the word

A troll. They are bumping lots of 2007 threads at the moment.

Oh yeah! How dare people with no kids even dare say they're tired! Tiredness only comes from parenting, everyone knows that! 🤦‍♀️

My children are adult so to a large extent I am “childless”, however the fatigue I get these days is nothing like the “bit tired” I got when my children were small. I am constantly exhausted but I do have auto immune disease. My condition makes me tired and the medication just doubles down on that so OP would hate me and my constant tiredness.

Yes. So much whining about being tired Mean there’s different types of tired. Physical, emotional, spiritual etc. with kids it’s all the tired at one. You’re dead on your feet even with one

This! I remember reading some posts of mine on a fertility thread from about 15years ago. Mortified at myself 😂

It's hardly a date-specific topic, is it? Does it matter when it was started?

Yes parents have the monopoly on tired - you don't know tired until you've been up all night with a baby, just like they have the monopoly on love - you don't know love until you hold your baby. Utter bullshit that parents spout to devalue someone and their experiences.

God you sound like a terrible friend. And a terrible person.

YABU and patronising.

Why do you feel the need to compare your level of tiredness with someone else’s? It has never occurred to me to do that, not least imagine what shoes others might be walking in which makes them tired.

Even if you know they have an easy ride of it, just suck up your own tiredness and stop projecting!!

I have a insomnia triggered by medication where I cant sleep at night, had it all my life its got better with age and less meds but still happens sometimes (mainly in winter with SAD).

I had it before kids and now with kids, its not remotely 'self inflicted'.

I also suffer fatigue (not sleepiness but tiredness as in no energy to move/do things) from my disability (cerebal palsy), once again all my life (before and after kids) and again not self inflicted. Seemingly my disability is 'invisible' to most even though I drag my foot and occasionally spasm so people don't tend to think of me as disabled but trust me everything takes 100% effort even trying to make my hand close to hold something which is 'tiring'.

I am also a carer, back when I was a live in carer (before having kids so not now) I regularly got woken up by patients multiple times a night... from them wandering around lost (demetia patient), peeing on thing (autistic), falling out of bed and hurting themselves (another demetia patient) or one who use to like to climb in with me for a 'cuddle' (creepy when hes 32 and your 17, he was harmless/non sexual though he had the mentality of a toddler).

Some parents aren't tired (honestly after about 6 weeks old I have had very little night problems from my 3, only when they're sick), some child free people might be (for a whole host of reasons)... both sides need to have more awareness and treat it like its not a competition.

No I was tired before I had my son anyway.

And really it's self inflicted as I chose to have a child. Saying that no more after realising they don't sleep for many years.

YABU people without children can and do get tired - you have no idea about their lives and their commitments / health. Similarly there are some people with children who get masses of help either paid / family.

birthing a child does not give you the monopoly on tiredness. I really dislike this superior almost smug tone some parents have wittering on about “you don’t know the meaning of tiredness”.

All sorts of people struggle and get tired at different times in life and that’s fine. Having a child makes you no better or more worthy then someone without children.

Christ, I hope you apologised for that loss of control and utter rudeness.

You sound like my (ex) friend who couldn’t wait for me to have a baby and join ‘the club’ (boke!). When I finally did she had had her second baby and if I DARED mention I was tired or similar I got it full on how exhausting 2 were, just you wait, you won’t know what’s hit you, one is so easy….people like you are exhausting to be around.

Yeah, it's childless people's fault that you had children.
Nothing to do with your own free will & choice.
Having inflicted reproduction on you, childless people are no longer allowed to feel tired.
Obviously, as somebody who has achieved parturition, you no longer need to pay attention to anybody else's feelings - yours now trump everyone else's. Serve those childfree bastards right - what with them being responsible for your pregnancy & all.

Mumsnet 2022 seams very different to Mumsnet 2007...

FML where are all these zombies threads coming from!!?

For the better I might add, going on the attitudes from back then towards childfree people

Totally unreasonable post. It’s all relative, and besides, why does it have to be a competition?
“I’m tired”
“No, I’M tired!”
Grow up. You sound like you’ve been spending too much time with the kids!

Who the hell has resurrected this horrible little thread?

I'm not sure I'd have liked 2007 mn 🤔

This ⬆️

Yes YABU

I was childless and had undiagnosed severe sleep apnea. Baby tiredness is a life of luxury compared to being woken up every 2 minutes, all night, every night, for 20 years.

YABVU

Are only people with kids allowed to moan about being tired! How preposterous

I did used to complain I was tired pre kids (in my 20s). I was tired as I suffered health conditions that improved with age. I also worked in a high stress job and traveled a lot. I still get tired now (mum of 3) but it's a different tired. Just because someone is childless doesn't mean they are not exhausted. They may have underlying medical conditions, caring responsibilities or other factors at play. Some people really have no clue what tired is but others do.