To think the right wing tabloids have gone too far?

[Mistigri]

Reactions of the Mail, Express and Sun to yesterday's court decision on brexit:

The Mail's front page has a picture of the three high court judges with the headline "Enemies of the people". One judge is criticised for being "openly gay".

The Express says this is the UK's greatest crisis since the Second World War.

The Sun (proprietor: R Murdoch) takes to task the "foreign elites" who brought the case. Because their readers are less likely to approve of attacks on white pensioners (the other claimant), they focus their attack on the non-white woman claimant.

The Mail is the most problematic IMO; attacking the judiciary is another step on the road to facism.

How can we have any reasonable political debate in this environment?

We live in sad and scary times. The question is what can we do?

"I am amazed that the UK government didn't do something similar. That is, give people a choice between the status quo and an actual plan for something altogether unpalatable."

hardcore, the government wasn't united in wanting to remain, which is why the above didn't happen.

OP, I wholeheartedly agree.

One judge is criticised for being "openly gay".

Criticised how? What did it say?

I agree, it's completely vile. There are so many good posts on this thread.

The separation of powers - legislature, executive, judiciary - is one of the cornerstones of democracy and the rule of law. Any decent newspaper would run a headline like "Judges defend democracy" followed by "thank goodness they are here to protect us from executive abuse of power - the system's working then".

The headline reminds me of 1984, but obviously that's taken from real totalitarian systems.

Judges are there to look at things from a purely legal, logical point of view and not let political agendas get in their way.

The Express says this is the UK's greatest crisis since the Second World War.

Have they just woken up? Some of us have been saying that since 24th June.

It's only a few.months since.Jo Cox was.shot because of this sort.of shit.

It's like living inside an episode of Black Mirror at the moment, and TBH it's pretty scary.

Being attacked for being "openly gay" because as a judge you came to a decision the newspaper proprietor didn't like. Appalling.

Again, can I ask how he was attacked? I don't see why it was at all necessary or relevant to mention his sexuality at all but how was he attacked or criticised?

Criticised how? What did it say?

"The judges who blocked Brexit: one founded a EUROPEAN law group, another charged the tax payer millions for advice and the third is an openly-gay ex-Olympic fencer"

(I know it reads like something out of Viz comic but they really did publish that)

The temerity of founding an European law firm.

YANBU!!
It's right that Parliament should scrutinise the deal or at least the strategy. Leavers don't even agree what they voted for. Who the heck else is going to hash out a strategy that reflects what deal voters want now. I don't get this "Don't want to show our hand too early" thing at all. What is there to hide??? We will have to compromise & work with EU partners afterwards (on a huge range of non-EU issues), why treat them like business enemies? And we will have to "show our hand" very soon anyway, from April onwards, so what difference does 4 months make? Genuine question!!

Interview on radio today with someone (who voted leave) who said they didn't understand why we hadn't left already (& he meant the full Leaving, not just a 2 yr wait). Folk didn't even know what they were voting about.

I've looked on the article on the daily mail online, they mentioned the judge being in a gay relationship as did they mention the family status of the other two, I didn't read any where about them being homophobic at all, am I reading the wrong article OP?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine there are calls all over social media for Gina Miller to be killed now.

Enough of this "the people have spoken" shit. The ruling doesn't say we can't leave. It says the process of leaving has to be carried out lawfully. That isn't exactly shocking, is it?

We've spent 40 years getting more and more entangled with the EU, the ever close economic and political union that concerned the more thoughtful Leave voters (and some reluctant Remainers). We can't just cut the Gordian knot with a stroke of the sword. It has to be unravelled carefully or it really will be the disaster that many fear. It's like sailing a long, long way on a ship going somewhere you don't really want to go. By the time you reach the middle of the ocean you really have to think carefully about whether carrying on to the unwanted destination is worse than jumping out. Now some mean buggers want to insist we check the lifeboats are seaworthy first. String them up!

I agree - disgraceful. I will complain - thanks for links to make it easy.

I all judges have done is rule on a point of law .This is not about Brexit per se. The decision was not a surprise, not really, and it will mean a formalisation of the process but should not change it. Interesting times.

Ok thanks Misti

It's an oddly snidey and completely unnecessary thing to say, I absolutely agree. But it is a statement, not a direct criticism or an attack on gayness. They aren't that stupid.

Agree totally OP and the comments section on the DM included what was to me a schocking amount of physical threats of violence towards the woman who quite legally brought the case to court.

Anniegetyourgun - very well expressed

I've been reading the comments on the Daily Fail website. I was particularly taken by this response to someone asking that the three Supreme Court judges be tried for treason: "What are you talking about, you roaring numpty. How can you be so thick and own a bit of computing kit?" Sorry to lower the tone, it just made me laugh on an otherwise rather frightening morning.

Buster Gonad they changed their original headline, I am guessing that they realised it had gone too far that's why you won't see it now.

But it is a statement, not a direct criticism or an attack on gayness. They aren't that stupid.

In the context of the "enemies of the people" line, I think it's pretty explicit.

I believe that headline has been pulled from the website, so I guess that even the Mail thinks it went too for. What do you think?

Thank you twin and OP for clearing that up as I was getting a bit as to what so wrong with the article.

We were told during the referendum campaign that one of the really key reasons for voting out was to get our sovereignty back and allow parliament to make and review our own laws, not have them passed by a remote executive.

Why then when the judiciary require exactly this to be applied to the process of leaving do the tabloids and MPs who ought to know better start shrieking about treachery

^This

The result of the referendum is not legally binding. It was 'advisory'. This was known all along, as was a possible legal challenge.

Things have changed since the vote: a lot of people have realised they didn't know how Brexit would really impact negatively. (Hello 4% inflation next year) And the result was so close anyway .

This doesn't equate to a legal challenge, which is completely legal, but it's part of the big picture.

MLGs -Good post. Thee separation of powers is crucial - and this is encouraging. (I am happy about Leaving by the way but see this as making sure the process is done properly)

I agree OP

And the DM comments aimed at the woman who brought the case, (sorry I can't remember her name) are utterly disgusting. A lot of openly racist shit, coupled with outright threats to her life!

Then there's the threats to riot

I've probably lead a sheltered life but I've never read anything like it.

I despair that some people seem to not understand how English works! It doesn't have to explicitly say that being gay is bad (surely libellous and crass) just putting "gay" in a list of what they deem as negative traits is enough.