To think 4 people can't fit in 2 bed house

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The title explains it all really.

Teenage son in one room,mother,grandmother and teenage daughter sharing a room.

We're not quite sure what she needs. She's independent in a way that she can go to the local shops,and into town alone but she cannot cook,she forgets medication,leave the oven on,forget to lock doors when going out.

Could the niece live with you temporarily?

Thank you AreYouLocal I'll look into CAB.

I would love to have my neice stay with me but I live too far away from her school and I'm not sure how moving schools in year 10 work with GCSEs

Does the grandmother's income include attendance allowance? If she needs supervision to be safe she should be entitled to at least the lower rate.

your poor niece. is she scared of her brother too?

The grandma needs her needs assessing, and sil needs a carer's assessment as well.

We lived in a two bed house for a while and there were six of us... my dad came from a family of ten and also like ed in a two bed!!!! I wouldn't do it by choice but sometimes needs must :D

Haven't heard of attendance allowance,I will look into that as well getting SIL and gran's needs assessed.

Yes she is scared of her brother. When they get on it's lovely but he lashes out at her for no reason too. (This is being sorted out)

Poor girl. The only way I can think of that house working is to temporarily model it on the style of a student house with a communal kitchen and all other rooms bedrooms.

CAB were a great help to a friend of mine.

If there is a separate kitchen with table I would turn the living room into a bedroom. Put Gran and teen son in their own rooms. Mum and teen daughter to share whichever is the biggest room.

If it's open plan kitchen living room I'd go with the original arrangement.

No space for a table in the kitchen,

Okay, is it a galley type? I'd still be tempted to find another space to use to sit and eat and use the living room to sleep in. If gran snores it will be miserable for whoever shares with her.

Maybe mum and dd in half the living room and table in the other half -with room divider? Personally I could manage without sofa or armchairs if there was a table to eat at. If the teens are anything like mine they will watch their phones/laptops anyway. And gran could have her telly in her room.

Living room and kitchen are separate . The living room is small and can only fit their 3 person sofa and a dining table.

I'm guessing bathroom downstairs, if two double beds up and two v small rooms down. There I suppose replace sofa with divan for Gran, plus screen. Keep table for meals and niece's homework. Make sure everyone knows it's a short term arrangement. What is grandma's opinion?

How old is the grandmother? if she's aged 65 or pver she could get Pension Credit. If her income is below a certain amount Pension Credit makes up the difference

Go to the government website..click on benefits.

Bathroom is upstairs.

Gran doesn't mind what the arrangements are,as long as she has some space. She is over 65

Thank you thinkingblonde I'll have a look now.

They both need to go to cab for a full benefits check.

Does gran have a diagnosis of dementia? It sounds like she needs a mental health assessment via her gp.

She could be entitled to attendance allowance and this may then entitle her to other benefits.

How much is the rent on the 2 bed?

They should be able to afford it with child benefit, tax credits, pension credit etc.

It's quite worrying that dn is scared of dnephew.

What a horrible family she has. As if those poor kids haven't lost enough.

Is she claiming the bereaved parents benefit?

I would suggest the 2 kids in one room, mum and gran in the other. But really it's not ideal for 4 of them in 3 generations to be in one house.

The boy likes to have friends over, that means that he gets their shared room to himself say Monday's, Wednesday's & Friday's. With the girl getting it to herself Tuesday's, Thursday's and Saturday's.

i would also suggest that as the adults are unlikely to use their room for anything other than sleeping / getting changed. Their is no reason why the kid who's night it isn't for "their" room couldn't use the adults room for studying / chilling. With the agreement that they can only invite friends round on the days it's their turn for their own room.

Sil should put her foot down and insist a sibling takes on gran. She's in worse financial position than any of them and has less support, she's tried, and she just cannot stretch her money. It's time one of the others stepped up, it's their MOTHER who spent how much time, money an effort raising them? they can return the damn favour!

Op, your sil should have a single bed for the grand, bunk bed for the mother and daughter. Some have double on the bottom and single on top.

Hopefully the room is big enough for two beds.

If I were her I would contemplate using the living space for granny's bedroom. I would do this if the kitchen has space for a sofa. Even if it was just big enough for a two seater.

Mu parents slept in the living room on a "wall bed" that was hidden behind a curtain - you wou9nt know it was there in the day, but at night you just pulled it down. The bedding was held on with bungy ties.

I would definitely use the living room for someone to sleep in.

The problem with someone sleeping in the living room is when they want to sleep and others want to watch TV, either at night or in the mornings, or as someone else pointed out if that person is ill where do they go. Also that person gets next to no privacy.