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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To feel really uncomfortable about this and wondering if I should do anything?

97 replies

FedupofbeingtoldIcantusemyname · 24/10/2016 13:44

I heard something recently about one of Dp's friends and its been really bothering me ever since.

I'm reluctant to give specific details on here in case it is identifying and also in case it turns out not to be true.

It is sexual in nature, not abuse of a child but rather sexual things happening in the presence of a child, no idea if the child saw/was aware or not but I suspect not.

I'm not about to run straight to SS over this but could/should I do anything? As I said, I have no idea if it is true or not. I have experience of SS and know the devastation they can cause families and so would be reluctant to say anything if I was not sure it was necessary but if what he told me was true it makes me angry and concerned for their children.

Aibu?

OP posts:
Mumofttwins · 24/10/2016 15:32

You're not even sure it happened, from going off your posts.

And, it's definitely NOT ok to do that in the car - it's fucking stupid!

MsStricty · 24/10/2016 15:35

No to SS involvement ffs!

limon · 24/10/2016 15:37

Sexual activity in the presence of a child is child abuse. You need to report it.

BaronessBomburst · 24/10/2016 15:41

I know plenty of people who have bragged about blow jobs whilst driving. None of them were ever telling the truth.
Personally, I'd just roll my eyes and ignore.

MsStricty · 24/10/2016 15:45

The pearl-clutching on this thread given the distinct lack of reliable evidence or detail is striking.

TeacherBob · 24/10/2016 15:46

If the children are actually awake and able to notice it.

Yeah you are wrong.

Taken straight from nspcc:

encouraging a child to watch or hear sexual acts
not taking proper measures to prevent a child being exposed to sexual activities by others


In this case a child is being exposed to sexual activity (if it happened) and whether he is awake or not is immaterial because he could wake at any time.

To report it is the only viable action here

TeacherBob · 24/10/2016 15:48

I know plenty of people who have bragged about blow jobs whilst driving. None of them were ever telling the truth.
Personally, I'd just roll my eyes and ignore.

You cant allow a possible case of child abuse (and if they do this, what else would they do), just because they may or may not be bragging.

If they bragged about child abuse, then the consequences are their fault

ImperialBlether · 24/10/2016 15:50

OP, you should phone the NSPCC and ask them what to do. I called them once and they passed it on to Child Protection.

Choccyhobnob · 24/10/2016 15:58

LyinWItch I very rarely laugh out loud reading MN and am always a bit Hmm at people saying they are crying with laughter but your hoover nozzle/hose comment actually did make me LOL. Well done.

I have nothing else to add that might be vaguely helpful unfortunately.

Aeroflotgirl · 24/10/2016 16:06

Sounds like an overreaction tbh, the child is not in the same room but close by. Gosh what did they do in the bad old days where you would have poor families sharing a room!

Aeroflotgirl · 24/10/2016 16:08

Op does not know whether it's true or not. So very shaky ground.

TeacherBob · 24/10/2016 16:08

OP, you should phone the NSPCC and ask them what to do. I called them once and they passed it on to Child Protection.

This.

YuckYuckEwwww · 24/10/2016 17:30

Sexual activity in the presence of a child is child abuse. You need to report it

.. along with all families living in one room, or in yurts, or in temporary B&Bs, or studio flats, or who take campervan or camping trips presumably? Or should they all obtain?

What about families with separate bedrooms who don't have locks and bolts on their bedroom doors? them too?

And those with thin walls..

Fuck it anyone who every has sex any time when their children are in the same building because they could wake up. Will that cover it?

YuckYuckEwwww · 24/10/2016 17:33

Actually, shall we just round up everyone who has more than one child, since it's child abuse to have sex somewhere where a sleeping child might wake up and wander in (unless they can prove that child 1 was at a sleep over when child 2 was conceived)

IF what the OP is saying is true, then yes sex while driving is absolutely not okay

But some of the replies about how any sex near sleeping children is abuse….. jez! Do you all have a west wing and an east wing with motion sensors or what? Or do you just not have sex once you've had a baby?

TeacherBob · 24/10/2016 17:51

If you think having sex in the same room as a kid is ok, you probably have bigger issues than trolling MN

YuckYuckEwwww · 24/10/2016 17:59

What distance is acceptable to you teacherbob for someone to have sex in the vacinity of a sleeping child? separate rooms but thin walls and no locks for example? Children asleep on the same floor of a house? When is it okay by you?

TeacherBob · 24/10/2016 18:01

It doesnt matter what is ok me.

What I posted was not my definition but one of the accepted definitions given on every major website and in every training I have ever been on.

But if you ask, yes, having sex or sexual activity in the same room as a child is always wrong

AyeAmarok · 24/10/2016 18:09

I'd say that getting a blow job while driving is fucking stupid, dangerous, and childish.

Even if the child in the back was awake, they probably couldn't see anything.

I don't think the presence of the child would make much of a difference to what I thought, other than the danger aspect. And I'd think the couple were pathetic.

YuckYuckEwwww · 24/10/2016 18:40

Well I know families living in studio flats and their health visitors never raised any concerned about the lack of separate sex room bob so obviously not as black and white as you think!

TeacherBob · 24/10/2016 18:55

Try it and see what happens in a court then

brambly · 24/10/2016 19:03

TeacherBob, what do you expect couples with a family living in one room to do then? Never have sex?

As someone who knows (relatively speaking) what they are talking about insofar as legality is concerned, I can pretty much guarantee you that a couple discreetly having sex with a very young child on close proximity for lack of other options would be of zero interest or concern to the authorities.

PinkissimoAndPearls · 24/10/2016 19:06

TeacherBob I seem to remember you having some very questionable views on the Ched Evans thread. I don't think you are one to be taking the moral high ground on this subject.

Apologies if I'm confusing you with someone else but I remember being Hmmthat you had "teacher" in your username but didn't seem to have a problem with someone who was a teacher covertly watching filming someone having sex (or being raped dependent on your viewpoint) through a window.

I don't want to hijack the thread but it surprises me you are saying how well trained you are when it comes to sexual behaviour Hmm

TeacherBob · 24/10/2016 19:06

having sex in the same room as a child is child abuse

TeacherBob · 24/10/2016 19:09

pink that was probably me

But, my only real argument was that someone was posting that the case had given all men the option to rape, and I was refuting that claim.

Then it got derailed by the usual MN stuff of accusing me of being a perv etc just for disagreeing with the majority. I even got abuse in my inbox, just for saying that just ecause CE was given not guilty, that it wasnt an invitation for men to to out and rape.

I often get called troll/derailing etc, not because I am but because people cant handle someone giving a different opinion.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 24/10/2016 19:15

As A. You don't know if it happened at all and B. You don't know if what happened (if it did happen) was actually witnessed by a child and C. If that child had any worries about what may or may not have happened, then I suggest you get yourself a new hobby as you clearly have far too much time on your hands.

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