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To think PE is a waste of time

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ICantfindagoodusername · 22/10/2016 19:48

I'm totally prepared to be flamed, but please take the time to read the thread rather than just saying YABU because of the title.
I think PE is a waste of time because:
•Why is it the school's job to make sure our kids get enough exercise? An example of the government parenting our kids for us.
•Why does it always have to be team sports? Schools could do other more interesting PE choices, such as zumba, aerobics, and other things that don't involve running around outside in the cold and rain.
•What good does it do for your education? If a kid is overweight, a couple of hours of standing on a football pitch won't change anything. The time could be better spent covering more of the curriculum. Kids run around at lunchtime anyways.
•PE is supposed to make kids foster a life long love of sports. But in reality, lots of kids LOATHE it, and as soon as they are 16, quit PE, never to do it again.

OP posts:
Pisssssedofff · 26/10/2016 12:38

The whole system needs a rejig. Trainee teachers should be forced to watch dead poets society on loop until they get it.

TrueBlueYorkshire · 26/10/2016 12:49

IcedVanillaLatte

This is the system in place in Australia, effectively all running costs for pupils are paid for by the government, if you go to a private school or religious school you are effectively paying something extra on top (e.g. better teachers, equipment, facilities etc).

Government schools infrastructure replacement/improvement is paid for separately from running costs.

IcedVanillaLatte · 26/10/2016 12:50

I get what you're saying Andrew - however they could make it so that at least six of the twelve activities you choose over a year (two for each half term) (or three of the six, if the system was only due a half day per week) had to be sports.

IcedVanillaLatte · 26/10/2016 12:52

I'd like that too, True, but it doesn't sound like the same thing?

IcedVanillaLatte · 26/10/2016 13:00

*only for

Pisssssedofff · 26/10/2016 13:10

Yeah there's plenty of resentment in Australia too that tax payers subsise private schools whilst the poorer areas have very little equipment because the PTA effectively has to fund it all.

IcedVanillaLatte · 26/10/2016 13:28

But why shouldn't children at private schools get the same money put into their education by the state as other children?

ReallyTired · 26/10/2016 13:37

"But why shouldn't children at private schools get the same money put into their education by the state as other children?"

Private schools in the UK are allowed to convert into free schools. What they are not allowed to do is charge top up fees to pay for their smaller classes and better equipment. State schools are not allowed to discrimate against children on parental ablity/ desire to pay a top up.

Lots of middle class parents would love the ablity to pay a top up if it ensured that their children were only educated with well behaved children.

IcedVanillaLatte · 26/10/2016 13:49

I know that Really, I was commenting on the Australian system. I don't want to derail the thread from PE issues.

Pisssssedofff · 26/10/2016 14:22

Why should tax paying parents subise an education with facilities they can only dream of for their own children for parents who can afford to pay $18,000 a term for private schools. That happens every day in Australia. Miss single mum drags her ass out of bed to pay for the packers children's lacrosse lessons. Fucking wrong.

Pisssssedofff · 26/10/2016 14:25

Oh and rwallytired my kids went to private school. Some may remember my thread about how the doctors child threw a bottle filled with piss out of the school bus window, landed on a car windscreen and caused £40,000 in damage ... Well behaved children indeed.

devilinmyshoes · 26/10/2016 14:26

What? Music isn't an 'academic' subject? Since when?

Doublethecuddles · 26/10/2016 15:33

Music wasn't an academic subject when I was at school. It was a subject which I was humiliated in, and the teachers were only interested in those that were musical. I hated it.
However I wouldn't want it dropped from the curriculum, just the method of teaching it changed.

devilinmyshoes · 26/10/2016 15:37

It pretty much has dropped from the curriculum hasn't it, which is awful considering how valuable it is not only all the benefits in performing but studying its history etc

ReallyTired · 26/10/2016 15:41

pissssssedoff
No amount of money can guarantee that children will behave themselves. However private schools will not tolerate the state of affairs where extreme behaviour is put up with for two years.

The private school I went to certainly had no difficultly asking difficult children to leave. In fact they sometimes asked the nice but dim child to leave. They don't have to pick up the pieces of kicking a child out for the crime of getting pregnant. I hope that private schools show a bit more compassion than to tell a child that if they want to sit their a level exams they must have an abortion. I hope that in 2016 a private school will care more about the child than its image or exam results than 30 years ago.

Most private school parents value education. They make their children do their work. In most cases they will back the teacher if their child is badly behaved. It can be argued that private education buys a more hard working peer group.

Pisssssedofff · 26/10/2016 15:49

this has gone totally off topic now, reallytired, you appear to have an answer for everything. Doesn't resonate with me at all, but anyway, not the subject under discussion.

Doublethecuddles · 26/10/2016 17:26

If PE was removed from the curriculum, how many non sporty teenagers would reach the government daily target of 1 hour of exercise per week?
I can't answer as I have sporty children who aren't yet teenagers.

Love51 · 26/10/2016 17:48

double an hour a week? Blimey, I'd have thought an hour a day! Not necessarily competative, but exercise needs to be daily, surely!

Love51 · 26/10/2016 17:49

I appreciate that it isn't your figure, but it isn't one I've seen, and it surprised me!

Doublethecuddles · 26/10/2016 17:55

Sorry meant to type 1 hour per day

Love51 · 26/10/2016 18:43

Ah, cheers!

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