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'supported living for challenging youngsters' being built next door.

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getyourselfchecked · 18/10/2016 11:01

NC for this as could be outing. This is more of a WWYD really. I am at risk of sounding like a right NIMBY and I hate that its bringing this out in me but...
I am a single parent about to move to a new house. Building work has started on a 'supported living for challenging youngsters' development right next door.
Now, I have lived in some of the most gang-riven areas in the country without a thought but in my old age and with a child I admit I am worried about crime, drugs and ability to sell house on. I love the house and everything else is good.
WWYD? Still proceed with the purchase?

This is a genuine post, I don't have many people to discuss this with and I have never worried about house values etc in my life! I am genuinely surprised at my reaction to this.

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RebeccaMumsnet · 18/10/2016 20:48

@Ausernotanumber

Olivia. This thread stands as an exemplar of the pervasive institutionalised disablism that is claimed not to be seen. It's offensive and nasty and really just dripping with undertones of NIMBY.

You really are letting a lot of parents of and those members with disabilities down by letting this kind of shit stand.

Disablism is illegal under the law. Equality act 2010 and all that.

Hi Ausernotanumber,

We are sorry that you feel this way. We do try our best to get things right but it does take time and there are other issues rumbling alongside this one.

We don't want to see disablist posts on our Talkboards. We want to help to educate people so that they're not even thinking in a disablist way, let alone posting anything disablist on the boards.

But we know from experience that the sledgehammer approach really doesn't work - if we immediately take down every post and every thread in which somebody is asking a question but has got the terminology wrong, for example (eg used the word 'label' where 'diagnosis' would be more appropriate), nobody is going to learn anything. We need there to be discussions around these issues, so we can all be better informed.

We will continue to remove any posts which we consider to be disablist, we will continue to delete threads which we feel are deliberately inflammatory, but we're not going to remove posts or threads which we feel are genuine questions and discussions.

This does take some time to go through thoroughly and it has been an exceptionally busy week so please do bear with us. We were sent this link today which we thought was very interesting if you'd like to have a read.

UmbongoUnchained · 18/10/2016 20:49

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Ifounddory · 18/10/2016 20:49

Umbongo was simply saying it makes no difference to the people in the other house as they will be there regardless of if she is or not. No need to jump down her throat. I think some people are looking for anything to take offence at tonight.

MoreCoffeeNow · 18/10/2016 20:50

You didn't, Umbongo,

OhSoggyBiscuit · 18/10/2016 20:50

I have a bloody disability myself and I don't see why every thread recently has to be a bunfight!

Ausernotanumber · 18/10/2016 20:51

Oh. So now I get a personal attack.

Instead of I'm sorry. This is a sensitive thread and I worded that poorly.

Nice.

Owllady · 18/10/2016 20:51

My daughter is 17 karigan
Is it her you are talking about? She has NEVER bitten ANYONE outside of school even with a much younger sibling, other siblings and me as her only carer
She's much more pleasant and less embarrassing than some of the people on this thread, quite frankly

UmbongoUnchained · 18/10/2016 20:51

Again, reading thibgs that aren't there

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 18/10/2016 20:52

I have a bloody disability myself and I don't see why every thread recently has to be a bunfight!

So do I and I agree with you.

Ausernotanumber · 18/10/2016 20:52

Olivia. This thread is way beyond label vs diagnosis.

Kennington · 18/10/2016 20:52

I lived next to a safe house for recovering alcoholics for years and it was absolutely fine.
I wouldn't buy there now unless the price is really good and low. The kids aren't really the issue but if you want to sell it may well be very difficult.

DanyellasDonkey · 18/10/2016 20:53

Unbelievable - this reminds me of why I have now left MN four times.

UmbongoUnchained · 18/10/2016 20:54

soggy

So do I and this I should the exact reason why mumsnet is shit. The disabled boards are run by a few posters and if you dare to disagree with their extreme views you are labels disablist.

CalleighDoodle · 18/10/2016 20:55

Can i just reassure a few of you that NO teacher of ANY child wants to live next door to them.

BeJayKayven · 18/10/2016 20:56

That wouldn't be difficult

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 18/10/2016 20:56

Can i just reassure a few of you that NO teacher of ANY child wants to live next door to them.

Where has anyone said that.

getyourselfchecked · 18/10/2016 20:56

BeJay, Im not sure and this thread had really unsettled me. I almost wish I hadn't found out about the development and just carried on and it would probably be fine. Crime etc can happen anywhere and I am very realistic about that. As I said, I have lived places, by choice, many people definitely wouldn't! Where I live now is probably much 'worse' by some peoples standards and we have no trouble at all...For some reason I got a bit spooked about this.
Anyway, I am going to leave the thread. Thanks everyone who gave reasoned responses.

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BeJayKayven · 18/10/2016 20:57

X post, that was to owlady

WaitrosePigeon · 18/10/2016 20:57

I'm sorry your thread has turned into something it wasn't meant to OP, best of luck with everything Flowers

BeJayKayven · 18/10/2016 20:58

Good luck getyourselfchecked

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 18/10/2016 21:00

Who 'runs the SN boards' Umbongo?

Me, who doesn't actually post there?

OneOfTheGrundys · 18/10/2016 21:00

We do all indeed have our own, often hidden shit to deal with.

I work all day with those teenagers. Auser is so right-nearly all of them have hidden or undiagnosed disability.

My own DC has hidden disabilities that make him extremely vulnerable. He's deaf with severe SLCN and ASD. We're coping... Just. One of the reasons we cope is because we live in the middle of nowhere and we are able to control his environment. Disruptive neighbours would utterly destroy this. I'm his primary carer. I have to take decisions with him as my priority at all times.

I know how it feels to be the parent of a child not understood. But he's my child and I'm the only mum he has.

Flowers to all.

CoolCarrie · 18/10/2016 21:01

Don't buy the house OP. Same thing happened very close to an old friend of my parents, the council, in their wisdom, closed down a lovely nursery, built & paid for in 1920 by the parents of a young man killed in WW1 as a memorial to him, to sling up a hostel like the one you have described and it has been a nightmare, the noise and behaviour has been a shock to her and her neighbours after literally nearly a hundred years of little dc doing their thing, now they have cars smashed, peeing in the street etc

DixieNormas · 18/10/2016 21:01

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ZuleikaDobson · 18/10/2016 21:01

This isn't a home for disabled children though

Challenging behaviour amongst children and young people is often the result of SN that have not been properly addressed, particularly at school, and children with such difficulties are very often the ones that local authorities have to find accommodation for. The chances that this home will never house disabled people are vanishingly small.

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