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AIBU?

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To expect a 'thank you' or some recognition..

105 replies

roseroyce · 14/10/2016 15:48

I have a business as a venue stylist and this mainly involves weddings. My sister recently got married at a venue I do fairly regularly, so of course, she asked and, I expected to dress her wedding venue for her (I would have hated any other venue stylist to have done it - it would never have been right as I am a perfectionist at that venue).

She wasn't the easiest of 'clients' albeit it being a small wedding - only 40 guests during the day. If she had been a paying client, the bill rose to over £600. I would normally never have given her a wedding present of £600 and to be fair they didn't expect it to be a wedding present. So it was easy for me to heavily discount the 'bill' and they paid me £350. I had nearly £100 of out of pocket costs, so the 'wedding present' was between £250 and £300.

On the day, I was there dressing the venue at 9.30, got home about 12.30 and she got married at 2.00 - so the day was tight for me to get ready and go back as a guest.

This is where the AIBU comes in - during the speeches my new BIL thanked a friend for coming some distance -100 miles or so (and also only gave a gift of a bag of flower bulbs!) and some relatives who we see fairly regularly having come about 30 miles - so no hassle to them! I, however, didn't get a single mention or thank you.

I didn't say anything on the day because I didn't want to upset anyone, despite being upset myself. I did get a verbal thank you from my sister on the day.

Since they have come back from honeymoon, I have said to my sister that it would have nice to have had a thank you. She said she did, referring to the verbal thank you. I clarified this by saying "it would have been nice to have been mentioned in the actual speech", to which she said that if I had been thanked, then BIL would have had to thank everyone individually for coming. I said I didn't expect to be individually thanked for turning up as a guest, but for all the extra work I had done and been involved in to make the wedding day a success. I told her I was very hurt and disappointed. Then the penny dropped and she apologised, but the hurt had already been done.

It would have helped my business to have had a thank you and recommendation; there has been nothing from either of them on my business Facebook page despite me posting pictures and reference to being a guest at a recent wedding, so no LIKES, no comment, no sharing. I have not had any written thank you for either the 'cash' gift or doing the work - four weeks after the wedding now.

I don't really expect anything now, as to them the whole incident has been forgotten and time has moved on. However, am I being unreasonable to still be feeling hurt and disappointed? It was a huge thing for me to confront my sister about my feelings as I never like conflict and don't like asking for things. Is there anything I can do now or just forget it, despite the feelings of resentment?

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FoxesOnSocks · 15/10/2016 06:13

The whole money thing isn't well explained in the OP.

But £100 out of pocket costs does sound like that's what the costs of the dressing was. The £250-£300 bit is the discount (tad confused by the 350, seeing the bill should have been 600 (so 350 + 250, not 350+300).

OP also seems might miffed she had to do things in the morning, causing her to not have a lot a time to get ready for the wedding. Despite being paid a profit (all be it a mate rate she was paid a profit). I completely fail to see where the monetary gift spoken about is in this.

Firsttimer82 · 15/10/2016 06:26

YABU Her wedding is not about you. Is there a back story? You sound a bit jealous.

ChippyDucks · 15/10/2016 06:37

Hmm. I'm a venue dresser too, and I think YAB a bit U. You were thanked, you were paid, and all you need to do is ask her for an online review. She's your sister first and foremost.

FoxesSitOnBoxes · 15/10/2016 06:46

Totally confused over the money. I initially read it as you being hugely out of pocket with massive costs. If that's the case then, I agree, a thank you would have been nice but wedding days are crazy and things are easily overlooked and I wouldn't get upset over it
The missing out on advertising comments are really tacky though and you can't say you turned down other business as you wouldn't have been working on your sister's wedding day anyway.
If the money you feel you discounted was purely a reduction in your profits then I think you're being totally crazy!

BitOutOfPractice · 15/10/2016 06:56

Blimey! YABVU

Lunar1 · 15/10/2016 07:11

Would you have missed your sisters wedding for work? I honestly can't believe you charged them. I had loads of expenses for my brothers wedding, 150 favours hand made for a start. I could have worked in the time it took me to make them, so should I add that cost on to their gift?

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Bumbumtaloo · 15/10/2016 07:31

I think YABU, you have managed to make your sisters wedding all about you.

I don't have any siblings but I do have two very close friends, who are more like sisters to me. If it was either one of them I would not have taken a penny from them, other friends would be mates rates.

IMO a personal thanks means a lot more than the public thank you in a speech.

Also she has only been married for four weeks, she has been on honeymoon and probably hasn't even had time to think about giving you a review on Facebook.

Personally I think you owe your sister an apology, and actually mean it or this will effect your relationship with her.

HazelBite · 15/10/2016 07:52

I make cakes and made the wedding cake for my son and DIL. It was a very tricky one to do as well and four tiers.
I wasn't thanked in the speeches, do I care?
No, I knew they were grateful, and my work was admired by guests at the wedding.
I wouldn't have dreamt of charging, neither have I charged for any other wedding cake I have done for close friends or family.
What do you want OP she is your sister, everlasting gratitude?

Runningupthathill82 · 15/10/2016 08:32

Was this wedding on Maui?

Specialapplek · 15/10/2016 08:44

Uhm. You sound a little petty to be honest.

She's your sister and you were helping her out as a sister. She did thank you verbally. She apologised after you told her you were upset. What more do you expect? I hope you can move forward from this and enjoy your relationship as sisters again.

Ausernotanumber · 15/10/2016 08:46

You got paid. The thank you was written on the tenners.

chanie44 · 15/10/2016 10:00

That's why you should never mix business with pleasure.

I read the OP as stating she gave a £300 'gift' which consists of the discount plus the out of pocket expenses.

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EnriqueTheRingBearingLizard · 15/10/2016 14:21

Everyone has to make a living and I turned down other business for the day

Did you not think to invoice them for lost profit as well? Hmm or for your time attending the happy event perhaps.

Just for curiosity's sake I'm trying to reconcile the maths.

If she had been a paying client, the bill rose to over £600. I would normally never have given her a wedding present of £600 and to be fair they didn't expect it to be a wedding present. So it was easy for me to heavily discount the 'bill' and they paid me £350. I had nearly £100 of out of pocket costs, so the 'wedding present' was between £250 and £300

On the day, I was there dressing the venue at 9.30, got home about 12.30

So You expected to get the job and would've been annoyed if you didn't.
Actual out of pocket costs was £100 cash paid out.
The rest of the invoice would've been travel time, time ordering, shopping and possibly collecting any flowers or objects used for dressing the venue. You wouldn't have needed to visit and view the venue in advance as you know it so well and it was a small affair, despite your disclaimer that the Bride was difficult
3-4 hours on the day, say the same again beforehand. It's a day's work.

They paid you £350, minus the £100 out of pocket costs that means they gave you £250 for your time.

Say you spent 12 hours on the job that you didn't want anyone else to have? that means your gift to your SISTER and her husband, was to charge them around £21 an hour.

I'm sure it's a gift they'll remember...the fact they only paid you £250 when you'd have charged other people £600 plus.

Laiste · 15/10/2016 14:25

Bit late but i'd like to add my face OP. Sorry. I have to agree with the majority.

You wanted to do the job, and you got to do it.
You wanted some money towards it and you got what you asked.
I'm sure most of the guests knew it was you who had done the decor, so (if you did a good job) then that was a bit of good free advertisement right there.
You wanted gratitude and you got a thanks from your sister on the day.

You're not happy because they didn't mention you in the speeches and because they haven't written you a letter and because they haven't boosted your buisness online? ConfusedHmm

Laiste · 15/10/2016 14:37

AIBU? Is My Sister Is Going Overboard In Her Expectations Of Gratitude?

I got married 4 weeks ago. My sister is a ''venue stylist''. The venue i chose is one she has styled before and she was insistent that she styled it for me as ''no one else would be able to do it as well'' . We didn't see quite eye to eye on how it was done but got there in the end. She usually charges upward of £600 for what she does, but gave us a £250 discount.

I thanked her on the day, but she is now angry as she expected to be included in the speeches and wanted a letter of thanks. She is using pictures of my wedding as a boost to her business on FB, which is fine, but wanted me to contribute on FB to the advertising. She's angry about this too. I think she feels out of pocket as she had to have the day off work to attend the wedding.

Is she being U?

rookiemere · 15/10/2016 15:05

I'm amazed that anyone would pay £600 to "style" their venue tbh. What does that even mean? It doesn't include the flowers presumably, so a few balloons, drapes and some naff glitter on the table.

OP YABU. Your Dsis didn't mention you in the speeches as she has already paid you.

DotForShort · 15/10/2016 15:48

It would have been nice for them to thank you publicly. But they did thank you. And they paid you. So I would say YABU. I can't imagine charging a family member for helping out on her wedding day, but what do I know? I have never heard the term "venue stylist" in my life.

Reading wedding threads on MN always makes me breathe a sigh of relief that we got married in a registry office (or rather the equivalent of one in another country).

And as for this bit I would have hated any other venue stylist to have done it - it would never have been right as I am a perfectionist at that venue

Really? I mean, really?

arethereanyleftatall · 15/10/2016 15:54

It beggars belief the amount of money people are prepared to waste on weddings. £600? For what? Will a venue stylist have enhanced the amount of fun any guest had? Nope. Bonkers.

MrsHathaway · 15/10/2016 16:15

I follow Crap Wedding Decor on FB after a MN recommendation: a good wedding stylist does that effortless "am hanging together" theme thing.

That said, styling a venue at the equivalent of £15 a head does seem extravagant - that's a whole other bottle of house wine each!!

MrsHathaway · 15/10/2016 16:16
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