Why are all children being immunised against flu?

[MiniChedda]

I am curious about this, my y1 DC is due to get it at school next week.

DD had flu but it was no worse than a sickness bug.

Wouldn't it be better to give the meningitis vaccine instead as it's so much more serious?

I've never had flu, touch wood, but my mum said it was basically the £1,000 test. You're in bed, sick, and someone puts £1,000 in cash on your feet. Can you reach down to get it?

If you can't face it, even for £1,000, that's flu. Otherwise it's a bad cold!

I don't believe an asthma nurse said that either, they are very keen for asthmatics to be immunised. If she did, then she is ridiculously ignorant, and needs educating.

Verbena37 my asthma was only mild few years ago ( so mild noone knew for certain it was asthma).
When i got the flu it floored me.
Ended up in hospital as i couldn't breathe and had two lots of antibiotics to clear up the massive chest infection it left me with.
After that my gp advised me to have a flu jab because of how severe my breathing had been affected.

I wish we had the system they have in Australia - that children aren't allowed in school unless they have been fully vaccinated.

Like titsalina, I have family members with cystic fibrosis. People choosing to not vaccinate their healthy children could kill ours.

But as long as you're happy with your decision

Not letting DC have any immunisations after seeing several children's lives destroyed by vaccines

Even the government acknowledges that vaccines have a possibility of causing disability and pay out a lousy £120,000

www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment/overview

That's not quite right about Australia. School entry is not dependent on vax status, but eligibility for certain benefit is.

"In Australia, vaccination is not compulsory, nor a requirement for school entry. Up until recently, the Federal Government required mandatory registration of vaccination status to receive child care and/or family benefits. Those who cannot or will not follow the vaccination schedule were being encouraged to register as a Conscientious Objector or obtain a religious or medical exemption. More recently however, the Federal Government announced 'No Jab - No Pay' removing Conscientious objection and Religious exemptions, effective January 2016."

antivax

Good for you, Antivaxx.

Of course, you're quite happy to know that your DC are at a low risk of catching potentially life changing diseases like measles, polio etc because of other people's children being vaccinated?

My daughter had flu at age 12. It was terrifying, she was delirious , wet her self , her eyes were rolling around in her head, truely awful.
This was before kids were routinely offered the vaccine, my kids have the vaccine every year now.

Medicine is a lot better so kids rarely die of these diseases Temporary

Hope you are quite happy knowing that some children are now disabled because of vaccines

It's more dangerous for children than people realise and children are the biggest spreaders of germs to vulnerable groups such as the elderly. The spreading germs risk is the biggest reason so many dc are being vaccinated this year.

Medicine is a lot better so kids rarely die of these diseases

not for much longer possibly. due to anti b's not working anymore.

What pisses me off most is the people who die are never the cunts who refuse to vaccinate.

Antivaxx Hope you're happy that you are putting immunosuppressed children at risk, you know, those with cancer and other life threatening/limiting diseases. Oh, and while we're on the subject, measles is on the increase again, and it still kills some children.
Oh, and you haven't seen 'several children whose lives have been damaged by vaccines' you've read a few horror stories on the internet. I'm 58 years old, I was born in London and lived there until my twenties. I have worked on and off most of my life with people with disabilities as well as being a lecturer. I have met, in all that time two people that have suffered vaccine damage. The vaccine damage fund has only paid out a few times in the last ten years and there are only around 800 claims per annum.

No. Some die. Ask the mother of the poor little baby in Australia who died of whooping cough recently because she declined the pertussis vaccine, for example.

Others are left blind or without limbs or otherwise very badly affected. The spread of these diseases has been almost halted by vaccines.

Anyone can bash words out on a screen, antivaxx. If you are going to make statements like that, and piggyback on other children being vaccinated, and risk spreading diseases to the sick or those with compromised immune systems, you need actual hard evidence to go against all the benefits of a vaccinated population. Waffling anecdotally isn't enough to support such a dangerous point of view, sorry.

If you have the evidence, everyone should see it, because it's huge, so come on, show us!

"I suspect that both I and my children will have had flu more times than the couple of occasions where I had a "bad case" of flu. I think the misconception that all flu is debilitating rather feeds into the fear of the illness, however the vunerable in society do need protection."

All infections can present with a milder form, or a sub-clinical infection.

This isn't really the point. Because yes, you might encounter the flu and essentially get away with it. But during an outbreak, the numbers who contract what is definitely flu and at typical severity (ie illness of 2-3 weeks, severe symptoms in first one to two thirds of that) are large - because it's so infectious - and although those with compromised immune systems are worse affected, flu also kills those in the prime of life in normal health beforehand.

"Medicine is a lot better so kids rarely die of these diseases Temporary"

Really? Well according to Public Health England, around 8,000 deaths a year can be attributed to flu (as of 2014). I don't call that 'rarely' and if you'd read the thread above, you'd know that giving kids the vaccine benefits all ages, not just kids.

In line with the other posters above, I'm leaving this thread because there's no point trying to convince an anti-vaxxer of the truth.

But I'll just leave these statistics for you to ponder - according to your own CDC:

There were 148 pediatric flu deaths during the 2014-2015 flu season in the US. 90% were in children who had not received a flu vaccine.

Flu vaccination prevented an estimated 6.6 million influenza illnesses, 3.2 million medically attended influenza illnesses, and 79,260 hospitalizations.

But please, continue to sleep well knowing that your actions are posing a very real threat to your community.

Temporary and some children are left disabled as a result of vaccination. You seem to be ignoring the fact that the government pay out to vaccine damaged children. Do you think they would pay out with no evidence?

Wanderlust I sleep very well at night, thank you oh and byeeeeee!

There is no evidence to back your claim the nasal spray causes disabilities! Stop scaremongering and putting lives at risk antivaxx

Temporaryname137 yes people like me
anti oh yes because people don't get side effecrs from medications either do they?
They same waffle trotted out on these threads astounds me.

Because children are vulnerable and can make them very ill. I give the flu vaccine and have to have annual training to give it as a registered nurse. Have a Google about how it's made very clever.

We are all vectors for flu. The take up for the flu vacinne is pretty low.

Are children who have had the live flu virus infectious? Will they unintentionally spread the weakened form of the virus to their classmates. I don't know if this is a good or bad thing.

antivaxx - there are a very small number of people who've had payments. Even then there is no scientific proof - just the decision on the balance of probabilities by a panel.

But just saying that the fund exists without a single stroke of evidence is a reason to stop all vaccines? You're either a total idiot or are enjoying living under your smelly little bridge.

The vaccine isn't live.

antivaxx still waiting for your peer reviewed evidence, please.