Overweight but doesn't eat apparently - possible?

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So, my DM is massively overweight. She is also diabetic. She says she doesn't eat, 'I've only had one piece of toast all day. I couldn't possibly eat all that (when eating out/at our house). And yet she doesn't lose any weight. Is that possible? Surely the weight would be falling off her if she didn't eat? Or do I just not understand diabetes?

AIBU to think that she must do it for attention and that she's secretly eating packets of biscuits and crisps?

Talkin that is an incredibly offensive and ignorant thing to say about T2 diabetes and makes it obvious that you don't have the first clue about what you are talking about.

Type two diabetes causes insulin resistance which means carbs and sugar get stored as fat

I used to think I ate very moderately but I have discovered I eat nocturnally.
FWIW I do from time to time lose a considerable amount of weigh for no apparent reason, no kidding.
Some people are denial bout the amount they eat. I always notice at social gatherings that the very obese eat very little in public.

Talkin jeez, your misconceptions extend far beyond physics then!

I play hockey with a T2 diabetic. Have done for 11 years. We're quite good, dontcha know. Would you be surprised to know she has ALWAYS been a healthy bmi and above average fitness?

Just overweight, yes, possible. But massively overweight, I doubt it.

I most of the time eat like a diabetic (eventhough I am not - this is so I could prevent it - strong family history) and rarely eat beyong 1.5k cals/day (I'm almost 5'8") and I am still overweight.

But when I was eating with no care in the world, I was obese. BMI 32.

toast / mymouth
please explain how T2 Diabetes occurs without overeating ...

you may not like my posts but they are true

T2 is caused by eating too much too often
mymouth
insulin resistance causes T2
both are reversible and avoidable

you have a choice : cake or health
brutal but true

take it on board and enjoy a long active life

Both my Uncle and DF had late onset diabetes. Neither were overweight in fact my Uncle was very underweight.

It's true though that diabetes rates have rocketed and that seems to be linked to rising obesity levels- or perhaps its the poor diets associated with being overweight.

T2 diabetes is caused by a combination of genetics and environmental factors (overweight, with hypertension, not active, with PCOS, certain ethnicities).

I'm no expert, but I'' pretty sure srating that Tyoe2 diabetes is self-inflicted is wildly innacurate and unfair.

Because some individuals and population groups are prone to T2 diabetes. Whilst I'm not disagreeing that increased obesity is linked to a greater prevalence and earlier instance of T2, it's complete crap to claim that every case of it is because people are fat and "not getting off their lazy arses".

My mum's friend had her fucking foot amputated. She was a tiny slim little lady, and had been her entire life.
A good friend of mine is now borderline T2, he's also struggled with his blood pressure his whole life. He's fit and not overweight.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, Talkin, but that's clearly not stopping you.

Oh and I love a nice bit of cake. I'm pretty sure it's not going to impact my lifespan but then I'm not a complete loon on the subject of weight and food.

Wow Ta1k aren't you delightful

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One of my friends is a doctor who specialises in diabetes.

She told me that 70% of type 2 patients would be symptom free if they lost weight.

Being overweight if you already have this condition is a massive risk factor.

Thanks for the replies.

I never ask about her weight. I never even bring it up. She always references her food intake when we eat. 'Oh I can't eat all this' etc. Maybe it is shame and embarrassment.

NicknameUsed - yes, that's usually true. Blood sugar levels massively improve with weight loss. Weight is a strong risk factor.

My mom is like this. She used to say things like, "I don't eat". "I didn't eat today" and yet she was overweight.

She recently lost a lot of weight though by exercising and I think, finally regulating her food intake.

Talkin, excuse my bluntness, but you really are pig ignorant, if not a bit stupid & seriously need to educate yourself properly before spouting such bullshit on the internet as if its fact

It isn't helpful yo the OP & it is highly offensive to people unlucky enough to live with the condition.

There are lots if factors that play a part in Diabetes & genetics are a huge one.

Our GP wouldn't check me for Diabetes, because I hadn't LOST weight

Our good friend was stick thin when he collapsed & was rushed into hospital a couple of years ago - he nearly died due to problems with his organs - caused by undiagnosed T2 Diabetes

My DM was a size 12 when dhe was diagnosed with T2

DMs sister was a size 14 when diagnosed T2

My DF was very slim & athletic when he was diagnosed T2

2 of his DBs were also slim, 1 was overweight when diagnosed T2

In ALL of the above cases GENETICS was the biggest contributing factor, NOT poor diet/over eating/ obesity

Go read a book, read several books because you sure as hell need an education!!!

Type 2 is also related to older age. The longer you live the more susceptible you are to it. Also related to previously having had gestational diabetes, something which until fairly recently wouldn't have been routinely screened for. A large number of today's 60+ women would have gone undiagnosed if their symptoms were mild.

rockin
Your anecdotes do not in any way contradict my data set.
In fact they reinforce my anger.
Your family clearly needs resources
that are being diluted by lazy arses
which is a shame a
s a better understanding of the blood chemistry of your family could help a lot.

You are the edge of the normal curve.
Accept that and fight from there and your family may well get the support required

Ta1kin,
my mother is 5 foot 5, weighs 45 kg at the moment (she's been underweight most of her life, but this is lower than it has been for a long while. And yes, I'm worried about her).
She also has Type 2 diabetes.

All her own fault due to overeating?
Able to fix it merely by eating less?

By the way. I have Type 1. Had it for about thirty years now.
Which means I've spent way more time than I would like in endocrinologist's offices and waiting rooms. So other patients there will be both Type 1 and Type 2. And this is In the various countries I've lived in, which includes China, Japan, India, the US, the UK, America, and Germany. So places with a vastly differing range of what is normal body weight.

News flash: the VAST MAJORITY of my fellow diabetics that I saw were not overweight.
Some must have been Type 1, sure, but seeing as Type 2 make up approximately 90% of all diabetics, then surely a reasonable number of them would be Type 2.

In India, the clinic I visited was a free government clinic which treated everyone, this included people who were very very poor indeed, and who I doubt ever had a single chance in their lives to overeat. Didn't stop them getting Type 2!
The clinic was pretty open - no patient privacy - so you did end up hearing what the issues were with other patients.
(And yes, of course, there are also overweight more well-off Indians who get Type 2. But they are not the only ones)

There are all sorts of theories about the causes of Type 2.

One, for example, is that a foetus exposed in utero to maternal undernourishment is more likely to develop Type 2 in later life. This was developed looking at the development of children from times when there was abnormal restriction in food available, such as certain countries during the Second World War.

It is not as simple as you make out.

Maybe it is shame and embarrassment.

Maybe she feels you judge her for her weight OP & feels the need to justify herself ?

If it was my own DM, I would be wanting to rule out other linked health problems before presuming she was secretly over eating/eating badly, or look at her drug side effects & see if changes can be made

Maybe you should look into that first & by doing do you will not only show her that you care, but that you are not judging her & it will allow her to open up to you & see you in an ally.

Whatever the reasons for the obesity, she wont be happy with herself, she will feel ashamed, perhaps too ashamed to ask for help, so maybe letting her feel you are not judging & want to help her, will be a way forward

Talk What a rude, disgusting post.

Try growing up.

Talkin

Did you miss the bit where autoimmune disorders come in gangs?

Therefore having Diabetes means you are very high risk for developing thyroid disorders, Cushing's, Celiac, plus it causes CKD, Heart Disease

Or does that knowledge not fit with your nasty, bigoted, narrow minded, pretty damned thick, fat shaming agenda ??

My son has a brain tumour, the outcome of which for many people and children is a condition called Hypothalamic Obesity. If the hypothalamus is damaged, it can cause an insatiable hunger which cannot be medically treated. The results are terrible. Families keep locks on their refrigerators to regulate intake, but metabolism is also badly affected, so that even on a very restricted diet the patient gains weight uncontrollably.
Just bear in mind that not everyone who is fat is lazy. They may be suffering beyond your imagination.