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To think that 90% of Range Rover owners

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Dinosauratemypudding · 01/10/2016 18:43

Don't need such a big fucking car and should buy something else amd stop taking up most of the fucking road.

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Dinosauratemypudding · 02/10/2016 08:04

Yes eurotrick I am. It's them who are not

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Dinosauratemypudding · 02/10/2016 08:05

Do rr drivers really drive around thinking 'look at me, look at me, you're all jealous' ??

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Dinosauratemypudding · 02/10/2016 08:08

hungry that's completely different. 4x4s are needed and there are many discoveries near me. My dm has a mitsubishi thingy one as she owwns horses and uses it to pull.
I'm meaningg the school run ones and the in town ones which takes up sooo much space when you're trying to negotiate narrow lanes full of parked cars.
Basically, if you don't need one. Why have one? And if you do need one, why not go for a more practical less flashy one?

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ChickenSalad · 02/10/2016 08:16

If you do need one and can afford one then they are actually the best at what they do, dinosaur.

Though I agree generally, most people who have them don't need one, and a lot of the owners seem to drive/park like entitled twunts. Sure, in a "free country" people, if they have the money, can choose whatever car they want. And anyone is also free to criticise and mock their choice.

MammasBrandNewBag · 02/10/2016 08:21

We live on a narrow London road with cars parked on either side, one one my neighbours briefly had a RR, most annoying thing ever took up about two parking spaces and half the road. Not going to lie, it was quite satisfying to see the wing mirror sprinkled across the road one day and the massive scrapes and dents down the side of it the next, it seems a van got stuck trying to fit past it. Haven't seen it since. Similar happened to the x5 that belonged to someone on our street, that has disappeared for ever also.

One of the neighbours has just acquired a big shiny pickup truck type thing, he is an estate agent so it is not necessary for his work, a few of us are watching and waiting....

WaitrosePigeon · 02/10/2016 08:22

Basically, if you don't need one. Why have one? And if you do need one, why not go for a more practical less flashy one?

Surely you can answer those questions yourself?

We don't need our RR but we wanted one and could afford one, so umm we bought it? Quite simple really.

With regards to needing one but choosing a less flashy one. You could apply that to everything you buy in your life. People like nice things. Why buy a bog standard version of something when you can have the nicer version?

YorkieDorkie · 02/10/2016 08:26

It doesn't have to be inverse snobbery to hate the bigger cars - they cause problems for many drivers because so many people can't drive the fecking things.

I like the cars a lot! I don't tend to like the actual snobs inside who simply "couldn't darling" drive a different car.

WaitrosePigeon · 02/10/2016 08:29

It doesn't have to be inverse snobbery to hate the bigger cars - they cause problems for many drivers because so many people can't drive the fecking things.

That is not what I am talking about.

There is someone in my town with a micra that cannot park it at all. It's always parked in the high street jutting out. Or there's the lady who works at the post office with her fiesta that always parks over two spaces.

It would be silly of me to start generalising all small car drivers.

Some things on Mumsnet seem fair game to 'attack'.

SoupDragon · 02/10/2016 08:32

Do rr drivers really drive around thinking 'look at me, look at me, you're all jealous' ??

Of course they don't. how ridiculous.

larrygrylls · 02/10/2016 08:33

But there are objective reasons to dislike large 4x4s in London.

They cannot fit into car parks allowing other people access to their cars.

They struggle in narrow roads.

They damage other people and cars in accidents far more than a normal car.

This is nothing to do with inverse snobbery (they are 'nouveau' anyway, the real upper classes would be more likely to drive a battered Defender). It is just that, in the uk, we are not set up for cars like this in cities.

NavyandWhite · 02/10/2016 08:34

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WaitrosePigeon · 02/10/2016 08:38

Not going to lie, it was quite satisfying to see the wing mirror sprinkled across the road one day and the massive scrapes and dents down the side of it the next, it seems a van got stuck trying to fit past it

Yes, this is quite awful.

I won't argue about what is inverse snobbery and what isn't, it's my opinion from what I've seen on this thread. I have no problem with anyone disagreeing with me but I'm not going to argue about it.

UmbongoUnchainedInAPearTreeeee · 02/10/2016 08:42

Why does it matter if I don't need one??
I didn't need the dominos I had the other night. I didn't need the jacket and new bag I bought yesterday. I don't really need the holiday I have booked next year.

But I can afford these things and I want them.
And of course I care more about the people inside my car in a crash then I don't do about the people on the outside! How stupid.

UmbongoUnchainedInAPearTreeeee · 02/10/2016 08:43

Than I do*

WaitrosePigeon · 02/10/2016 08:44

I didn't need the dominos I had the other night

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AmberNectarine · 02/10/2016 08:47

Well it didn't feel very safe when a RR crashed into me (while I was pg). Stopped at a pedestrian crossing (lights were red). Airhead in her massive RR went straight into the back of me at 30. I ended up in hospital.

I see them being driven by morons EVERY DAY in SW London.

I have enough sitting in my current account to buy one outright and conveniently live a five minute walk from a dealership. I would rather burn it.

MammasBrandNewBag · 02/10/2016 08:58

No I am not awful actually, are you really so selfish that you think it's ok to block up a road with your unnecessarily large vehicle so that other people are blocked in or cannot pass? If I park my car so that it juts out in to the road and it gets damaged then it is my own fault, I don't expect people to cry for me.

IrenetheQuaint · 02/10/2016 08:59

I live in a rapidly gentrifying area of inner London with on-road parking and narrow Victorian streets, and a few massive RRs have recently appeared.

They're hideous and take up a ludicrous amount of space and yes, I do massively judge the selfish consumerist twats who own them.

larrygrylls · 02/10/2016 08:59

Umbongo,

Your handbag does not affect anyone else, your choice of car does. And as for buying a car that you know endangers others (and, for a host of good scientific reasons that I have outlined above, does far less than you think to protect the occupants), I am not really sure what to say. I think if you accidentally ran over a small child in your Range Rover you may change your mind.

tristerflexu · 02/10/2016 09:00

I've a medium sized 4x4 and I love it, couldn't give a stiff what people think of me. I had a Volvo XC 90 in the past and it was the nicest car I ever drove but was bloody huge and I did struggle with it on country roads and with parking it so I sold it, yes sold it, not gave it back as I owned it and didn't have it on finance.

My next car will be a RR Evoque because I love them and I'm saving up for one. I don't care what people think of me driving it, it's what I like and I wouldn't want to drive a Ford SMax or a Berlingo any more than they would want to drive a 4x4.

WaitrosePigeon · 02/10/2016 09:06

are you really so selfish that you think it's ok to block up a road with your unnecessarily large vehicle so that other people are blocked in or cannot pass? If I park my car so that it juts out in to the road and it gets damaged then it is my own fault, I don't expect people to cry for me.

I don't think I've posted that it's okay to block up a road with my large vehicle so that people and other cars can't get passed? So no, I'm not selfish because I didn't write that Confused.

Yes, if you park badly or in an inconsiderate way you can't moan if your car gets damaged. I think we all agree on that Confused

However, if you get enjoyment from other people's things getting damaged (what else do you find pleasurable with regards to people or their things being damaged?) then I think your probably not a very nice person.

I think that's covered it..

NavyandWhite · 02/10/2016 09:07

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WaitrosePigeon · 02/10/2016 09:07

*you're probably not

Blu · 02/10/2016 09:08

Of course there are bad drivers in all sorts of vehicles. Just as there are snobs, inverse snobs, selfish people, jealous people, everything , in all sorts of vehicles.

Fugly cars come across the whole price range : I drive an officially fugly car because of it 's qualities suit me, there are cheaper cars that are much better looking , and more expensive (very expensive) cars that I find really ugly too.

But for me, the issue of size is that however well or courteously parked or manoeuvred massive 4x4s simply take up more space. My Mum lives in a picturesque village popular for cottage rental. The introduction of big wide cars as standard in the cottage-renting and second-home fraternity has meant that where you used to be able to navigate through because a standard car could pass a parked car or an oncoming car, there are now child start gridlocks. Or there were: they have had to introduce double yellows.

In a London street (presumably any city) there are many places where two standard cars could pass , with some nifty manoeuvring or good spatial awareness, but the extra width of the big 4x4s makes it not possible .

Of course that 's the same for Tesco delivery vans (and Ocado Wink ) and trade vans. But they keep us on the move in other ways. Massive passenger family vehicles in cities, not so much .

As for 'need', I begrudge every penny I spend I cars , not my thing . I am about to buy a tent I really don't need. It will be less practical in some ways than my current tent, but I just want it because I love it. Luxury!

larrygrylls · 02/10/2016 09:09

Volvo drivers are the ones I have observed driving ludicrously aggressively and badly. It is almost like they are trying to prove that they are not boring.

Another thread, though ...