To think that 90% of Range Rover owners

[Dinosauratemypudding]

Don't need such a big fucking car and should buy something else amd stop taking up most of the fucking road.

I do not own a Range Rover, but have absolutely no problem with them (and one of the kindest, loveliest people I know drives an RR)

Anyone who judges others on the car they driver is a petty, bitter, stupid and shallow individual. To the Range Rover drivers tying themselves in knots justifying their choice of vehicles , honestly don't bother - you don't have to defend what car your drive - the opinion of the 'anti' brigade is pathetic unimportant

If we changed Range Rover ancedotes
embellished stories to, Skoda for example I wonder what the reaction would be.

If you have money on Mumsnet prepare to be roasted alive

Cry me a river, the most 'off road' usage I see from the 4x4's near me is when they have to park on the grass at Blenheim palace for battle of the proms or the latest artisan 'cheese' fayre

The most off road usage I see is when I'm crossing the Wahiba sands for fun with my family quite a few times a year. Or when we're doing it with a group of perhaps 40 vehicles who've come from all over the region for some adventure. Other times I could be going up a Jebel that's only accessible by 4 wheel drive, or I could be driving the length of our coast off road for the most part if we do a seven day camp as a family with kite surfing stops along the way.

I did however also use it very recently on our local beach when we were putting a stranded whale shark back in the water and it was too heavy for 15 of us to budge without a tow rope and a 4x4

Genius post Gemma ...I think I love you

That's lovely ohdear, was the whale shark ok in the end?

To the Range Rover drivers tying themselves in knots justifying their choice of vehicles , honestly don't bother

I'm not. I don't feel the need to. But I do like making light of these threads and having a laugh. Especially today when I'm sitting in a freezing cold ice rink waiting for my grandchildren.

Yes Waitrose, it was. It took about 45 minutes to get it back in the water. And you may not believe this, because I didn't at first even though I was there - it knew we were helping it and it started to help with the manoeuvres. It wasn't fully grown and measured about 3.5 metres in length. The beach was almost deserted. It was sunset and getting dark. But somehow more people came, people of all backgrounds and from many different corners of the world. It was very emotional. I'm hoping though that it's not the same one that's been mentioned in a local paper further up the coast because that one got into a spot of bother as well and I'd hate to think it's not well and beaching deliberately.

It's been a good couple of weeks for very close to the shore sightings and friends who were on their way out to sea on a dive boat last week came across 3 in the water - they were able to get in the water and swam with them. No one touched them though.

And I can remember once when one swam under a small local fishing boat my son was in with family friends. He was about 8. They were still in the port and this whale shark was huge. A fully grown adult. No one said a word because if it come any closer to the surface it would have been given the boat a piggy back ride. 😍

That's lovely, thanks for sharing your story, you arsehole 4x4 driver

It's funny. I'm the same driver whether I'm in a RR or a fiat or a transit. What this thread shows is that what changes is the attitude of the drivers round about you.
Where I live, it's BMW drivers that are arsey - cut people off; never indicate; drive up your backside; park inconsiderately. One of my relatives who has been driving for 6 months came in the other day and said 'why are BMW drivers such idiots?' No idea. But it is a truth universally acknowledged where we live that BMW drivers should be given a wide berth.

That's lovely, thanks for sharing your story, you arsehole 4x4 driver grin flowers

Do you want to meet me in the car park 😂

All the countryside dwellers I know own fiat pandas. They're good for narrow roads.

Evokes are great off road by the way. They're not just fashion accessories.

I assume you meant Evoque....

However I read your post as Ewoks - and I'd defiantly agree the furry little teddies are good off road if Return of the Jedi is to be believed .

Indeed, I would much prefer an Ewok

Oh God I LOVE these thread
I get sucked in every time.

RR driver who bought one in order to fit 3 baby seats in the back.

Flat boot opening to get massive amounts of work kit in and out of boot without developing hernia.

Occasional off roading.

Beaten to a pulp where other people have decided to scuff past it in car parks.
I drive it carefully, am considerate of other road users, give way more often than I should.
Had to leave it overnight somewhere dodgy, but was safe in the knowledge that no self respecting car thief would enter the depths of muddy wellies/lollipop sticks/sausage roll remnants/coke cans lurking in it.

What I really want is an old style defender, but apparently they're the most stolen vehicle in Britain

The moral of the thread is: a knob is a knob.

Especially if you take pleasure in someone else's misery.
I don't go out, don't drink, don't smoke, not bothered about having a naice house-but I do like a good car.

Driving a fugly eco machine or a Bugatti. If you are a shit driver, you are a shit driver. You risk others safety, you inconvenience people.
Move on.

We don't have a RR but we do have a big high performance 4x4 (DP's car). I have a VW Golf and much prefer it. I hate driving the 4x4, I find it heavy and clunky and hard to park. DP used to have an Audi, and I found it much nicer to drive - when he gets his next car, I'm going to push for a nice Audi or BMW saloon or even hatchback.

ohdearme no granny to sell here, nor any private school fees as my kids go to the local public school, which is very socioeconomically diverse--a chief reason we chose to live here!

I want an Ewok! Or a speeder rocker like this . . .

ohdearme the reason rr drivers aren't fussed about other driver's cars on the road is because they are not obstrusive. I don't tend to notice other cars either, but I certainly notice an rr or similar flashy 4x4 coming towards me as I have to really tuck in, which I wouldn't have to do with other cars.

Dinosauratemypudding - you do realise that not all 4x4s are Range Rovers, don't you? There are many vehicles on the road that are larger than a RR. I get rather cross about any driver that can't drive any vehicle well. For instance, the chap in a Smart Car who parked ON the school zebra crossing thereby not allowing school children to be able to cross the road safely. Because it was an in-house zebra crossing, nothing could be done, unfortunately. I did mention to him that he had parked dangerously and he told me to piss off. He was just a knob driving badly. Bad drivers are bad drivers, regardless of the vehicle.

White Van Man for instance, gets a bad rap. Yes, some are bad, but not all - some are really, really lovely.

This thread makes me Such a wonderful balance of judgement, bitterness and snobbery.

Oh, Dinosaur - I do drive a RR, but it is by no means 'flashy'. Big does not equate to 'flashy'. I have driven RRs for about 20yrs, they've always been old ones. The driver's window of the first didn't open, so every time I parked in a ticketed car park, I had to leap out of the car to get the ticket, and leap out again to pay upon exit. The heater never worked, so when I had to pay a winter-time visit to my parents who live 200 miles away once, they had to prise my hands from the steering wheel, as they had frozen on. Nothing glamorous about that!

We are now on our third RR (still very old) and it comes in very handy where we live during the winter, for shopping for neighbours where other vehicles can't get up and down our little dirt-track road. Or collecting a nurse friend from the hospital where she works which is miles away from where she lives and bringing her home. If DP hadn't, she would have had to stay at the hospital for days on end.

Oh - but I do also use it for the supermarket shopping trolley trip too, during the rest of the year. If that makes me an entitled knob, then so be it.

I think what the op does every day.
I live in a city so why do people need a massive car that won't fit in a normal parking space which means I have to cram in next to you and can hardly get out.
As for no-one else's business-how about guzzling all the earth's resources??
They are try hard and pathetic. Much easier to just wear a sign that says 'I'm quite rich you know'

On a previous thread about this, I helpfully provided various car measurements, and 4x4s compared with many smaller cars do not actually come up much larger. (I really can't be bothered to do it all again). Length compared with many family cars - not much in it at all, width - not very much in it. It is more to do with the height and engine size. I've never had a problem with parking in very tight parking spaces. DD has a Toyota Aygo (tiny), DP has various vans, including a long wheelbase Mercedes Sprinter, so quite a difference in sizes. If you can drive, you can drive, if you can't you can't . . . . . regardless of the vehicle.