To be horrified by vaginal rejuvenation

[Houseofmirth66]

Someone at work is having it done! With a laser! Which beats the rusty razor blade endured by terrified little girls in countries where women are second class citizens. However, it seems to me that hacking at your bits to make yourself tighter for a man is really a more sanitised version of female circumcision. There was some talk of labia reduction too. Can one have too much labia? Please tell me I am not being unreasonable to have been shocked.

You're not allowed a full bush now - you get it all waxed off.
For yourself.

But I love my bush! I play with it when watching tv sometimes 😳

If you want to get it waxed off why not?

All this 'women should do what they want unless it concerns their vagina' bullshit is ridiculous

If someone wants to plait their pubic hair why would anyone else care?!

I don't get the fascination on MN with only untamed vaginal bushes are acceptable even if you personally don't like coz 'feminism'

No. if I want to shave it off it's for
Me, when I don't shave it it's for me

Can honestly say I'm yet to meet a man that says 'sorry I can't go through with sexual relations because you have a bush/don't have a bush'

I'm confused now mozfan - Not sure whether this whole doing things for yourself thing works when what you're doing is contrary to prevailing stereotypes of acceptable female appearance
No doubt one of the handmaidens will be along to tell us in a minute

Oh I don't know - I quite fancy it ! 9.8lb baby and all that ......

I wouldn't bother having surgery on large or lopsided labia- they shrink totally when you're in the menopause. And your pubes go grey and straight.

Now you know.

And to the op I think having a go about another woman's choices isn't feminist, really.
To equate self elected surgery with mutilation of children is quite bizarre of you.

Fwiw a good post natal physio can help restore muscle tone and ease out any scar tissue knots.

A stretchy pelvic floor is better actually, and my post natal physio told me that most women clench too much when doing kegels, and don't know how to totally relax the pelvic floor. You get better orgasams if you can totally relax.
Might be worth while making a physio appointment rather than going all star wars and light sabres on your ass, so to speak.

Karlos that's rubbish - from a brief look st the gym there are still many bushes out there ! The media is just words on a page - no ?

Women have nose jobs "for themselves"
Women get their fanjos tightened "for themselves"
No doubt in the nineteenth century they were laced into corsets for themselves too
I see we are still firmly committed to the intelligence insulting business

Yep Karlos it seems we definitely are.

Karlos with a massive baby bump on the front of me I canne really see mine! I would be a bit scared to put a razor to it

the bush/no bush dilemma is a classic one, usually divides people like this. I'm so easy just let everyone do what they want! I'm thinking we should start a trend of dying it red and calling our Vulvas 'the hucknell'...

Is it not about the checking at the urinals Derek?!

Or braid it and call it 'the beckham'?

This doing things for yourself horseshit is just lies women tell themselves to feel better about buying into all this crap
I've never been capable of that level of dishonesty. Nor would I want to be. Lie to everyone else but not yourself ffs

Truth be told, I'd have it done if I could afford it. With DS1 I had a huge episiotomy to accommodate a forceps delivery. It never really healed properly and I still have a small slit that never knitted back together.
And with DS2 I tore, again requiring stitches. It's all a bit lopsided. I refer to it as Frankenfanny these days

Karlos you are hilarious. Women can't do things for themselves now? Jeez, sisterhood is lacking

RJ I have no idea, I don't know what men do at urinals. I don't know if they have willy offs or something.

Willy offs

OP I assume you're too ignorant to know this is a medical procedure?
The Daily Mail ran a feature on it last week but it's not new- they also ran a feature on it about a year ago. It's always partly an advert for the products and the places where it's carried out.

The procedure is similar to the prolapse procedure that many women have (me included) after giving birth.

The laser though does not involve cutting, stitching, days in hospital and a recovery time the same as with a hysterectomy.

The Daily papers like to sensationalise the treatment by popping in comments about 'improved sex life' etc but for most women it's a medical treatment for a medical condition, not a beauty treatment.

I don't know either Derek. I'm told by dh it's not to obviously stare though. I can try to get more info!

Willy off takes us to quite alarming territory!

hmm.
I got beaten up and had to have a nose job to repair my nose. I wanted to look pretty.
I wear makeup, to look pretty.

I feel better about myself when I look good.
I think my labia is ok, I mean I'm happy with it. But if I wasn't, and it uncomfortable, of course I'd have surgery. Not for anyone but me. I have no idea what any of my previous partners, both male and female, have thought about my lady bits and I really don't care.

I change my pubic hair depending on my mood. Currently I am feeling a boho vibe, so am rocking the full bush and hairy legs. Sometimes I'll get creative and shave in a pattern or shape. when weed gets legalized here in November I'll probably do a little marijuana leaf :)

Anyway. YABU. I'm all for doing things to give you confidence and feel good.

I'm more horrified by the fact one day my dinner will fall through mine when I stand up.

If I had the money I would but fuck if I would tell anyone

TheVirgin , trust me , I was self conscious. There was a visible bulge through my pants or swimsuits that looked like a penis. It was hideous. I stupidly showed a friend at age 12 and she laughed her head off , so yes did feel self conscious. That and I'd either been told or overheard since i was a child that I had a 'different' vulva. I've been told natural birth might not be likely unfortunately. No idea if a man would notice. Less likely to see anything different now than before I think.

I've recently had an op to make it bigger. I had a tear with DS1 and the scar tissue had got tighter and tighter over the yrs until sex had become impossible. After many visits to GP and HRT I finally got it sorted with day surgery. It's beeen fucking brilliant - literally. Back in action now. I hope this post is useful to someone , if it happens to you don't put up with it, demand action.