To get frustrated when I see...

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Children in prams when they're obviously too big, their bottoms practically dragging on the floor, knees up by their chins! Children still in nappies, walking round with dummies/bottles etc!! Argh it really gets to me! I obviously don't say anything but I can't help but want to shake the parent when I see it even if it's a total stranger I appreciate sometimes there may be a disability but probably more often than not there's no need, often ease for the parents I think. One of the best thing about children is watching them grow and develop and people who don't encourage it really grip my shit!

The only time I've ever judged a parent was when I saw very over weight toddler struggling to walk...with a baby bottle full of Coca Cola

I must at admit, I walked away pretty sharpish because my mouth wouldn't stop dropping

Poor kid

But in a lot of pre school age children the disabilities may not be diagnosed, the pieces of the puzzle not put together yet. So just because a 3 or 4 year old looks like an NT child wearing a nappy actually they may not be.

And even if they are every child is different, some are ready before others.

"I appreciate sometimes there may be a disability but probably more often than not there's no need" - You have absolutely no idea from looking at a child and it's absolutely none of your business anyway , I will be hiding this thread to protect my blood pressure!

Some people don't have a car. I walked a good 10 miles a day before dd was at school everyday and would often then load the buggy up with shopping, park/beach toys. She couldn't have managed that and often still fell asleep in her buggy. She is also very tall and at 2-3year olds looked 5-6years old.

I think it depends on the individuals situation and number of children they have and age difference.

My ds was 2.2 when I had dd. He probably would have been out of his pram completely if I hadn't of had her when I did but instead I found myself with a double buggie and ds in it a lot. Whereas my friends with only 1 dc would turn up to meet ups with no pram.

I admit I did it for ease for myself. Ds would throw tantrums, often in the middle of the road, when out walking because he wouldn't hold my hand/pram. He would grab things when in shops and if I let him walk he would walk sooo slowly after it taking an hour to even get out the house I needed to get somewhere quick. I found it so much easier to manage knowing he was safe in his pram and I could put him in it when it all became too much. When I tried to go out with him walking and dd in pram he would pretty much instantly say he was tired and moan and want to go in the pram. I would end up putting dd in sling and push the pram with ds in it etc which was difficult. Sorry but I was just trying to get through the day/ week/ month the best way I could during that time. Perhaps these parents are the same?

I'm being daft?

Better that than being goady

If you have a niece with a disability then WTF would you judge others who may be in that situation? And how many children without disabilities are doing this? You admit you don't know the parents.

I hate well its fine for children with disibilities like toddlers with sn are aliens stop othering it is patronising and condescending. At what age did the nappy fairy vom come to your house op just so we can judge and comment that it is the right age?

Still maybe they could all be sorted by using the 'nappy fairy' - hey, why don't you approach them and share your wisdom?

Mine were both in nappies past 3. I used the buggy until dc2 was in reception. Probably would have been ok with you though as they are both dinky and look younger than they are.

And thank you for pointing out that their failure to learn to use the toilet was totally down to my laziness. If only I'd thought of the nappy fairy!!

Yikes... Not saying things like that work for everyone, that was just a passing comment in response to another post! Didn't mean to offend anyone, sorry!

You keep saying you don't mean to offend, and yet you keep doing it

Does the nappy fairy sprinkle them with vasopressin then????

How do you know if the parents you are judging have dc with SN or not?

Maybe it would be best to stop judging people you don't know and assume that they know what's best for their child.

My 3 yr old used to bolt, he is not particularly badly behaved (IMO!) but if I walk holding his hand he can let go and run - in any direction.

He doesnt do it now, but talking/ reasoning didnt work. He looks about 4 as he is big for age. So by busy roads he was in a buggy. If he continued to do it at 4 he would still be in the buggy or I'd have bought reins

DS is nearly 5 and goes in the pram with DD sometimes because he wants to cuddle his sister. How does that fit in with your perfect world view? Oh and he still has nappies at night. SIlly me, it's all down to me isnt it.

My nearly 3 year old ds loves his buggy. We walk everywhere and do 7 or 8 miles a day. He naps in it on the way to collect his sisters from school. Its a double but I kept the back seat on it to carry school bags, coats and shopping. I could care less what anyone thinks. He is very active, walks a lot and looks a lot older than he is. People constantly ask when is he starting primary school which isn't for another 2 years. He is also still in pull ups too and loves his soother. He wasn't ready for training when we tried and he loves his soother at bedtime and there is time enough for him to lose it. No stories of fairies will part him from them. Actually in fact I have a 6 year old in night time pants and she is still wet at night despite having spoken to the gp and night enuresis nurse and lifting her and training her bladder, its just the way things are at the moment. I have older children and have come out the other end of nappies, soothers and buggies with them. What is it to you? Its very easy to judge other peoples parenting when you aren't in their shoes.

Look. You had a smug mummy chat with another smug mummy. You shouldn't have got greedy op.

Dd is NT walked at 9 months, but she was still using a pushchair at four because I live in the sticks and it's a six mile round trip to Tesco not including walking in store and I couldn't carry all the shopping and a shattered child who couldn't walk the last mile in the pissing rain. I've hardly stunted her development ... she can manage it fine now at six. That doesn't fit your list of acceptable reasons.

What I am trying to say is, how do you know the reason SEN or not. Maybe it is the childs comfort and/or safety.
What is easy about pushing a pushchair? What if it is for speed? So what if they want to go somewhere quickly?

As a child minder (and a parent) I know all kids dont toilet train at some magical age. I have had kids in nappies up until 2 - 3yrs old then magically just 'get it' over a couple of days some kids 'get it' earlier, its not the end of the world.

I have also had kids with encopresis still in pull ups in primary 1-3. Its not laziness, its a horrible condition which affects both the family and childs esteem.

I have had kids with bottles at 2 because they had to have medicine and it was the only way they would take it without noticing it. Used a cup for everything else.

I also know kids who have the worst diet in the world as they had medical problems when born and getting them to eat anything was a bonus and they are only now at 3yrs old just starting to even try anything close to a 'normal healthy diet'.

It may make me cringe to see kids with coke for 'breakfast bottle' on the nursery run or eating big bags of crisps, packets of sweets etc but its nowt to do with me. We can all 'judge' internally but unless we actually KNOW why x,y & z is happening then its pure speculation and more often than not we would be wrong so we need to just let it go.

And if you had no intention of offending anyone than I'm Keith Lemons right gonad.

None of your business I don't know why you would even care

Oh my...we have a celebrity on this thread!

It's none either than Keith Lemons right gonad!!

Wow

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It's the usual bizarre double standard:

A seated child being carried along by wheels is a perfectly acceptable sight if they are in a car but is a sign of laziness and neglect if they are in a pushchair.

Yet it takes much more physical effort to use a pushchair than to drive a car.

How old is your child op?