People who do handbrake-neutral at the lights are..

[Kanga59]

..annoying. AIBU?

Why can't you just put your foot on the foot brake like normal people. Tsk

I was a big advocate of using the clutch and not bothering with the handbrake.
Then I broke down on the motorway as I had worn the clutch to the bone and got a 1.5 K bill on a 3 year old car. They put it down to driving style.

So I use the handbrake all the bloody time now. And I've changed my car because 1500 quid after just under 3 years is bloody ridiculous and makes me sick! But that's another thread

In gear but with hand break = car lurches forward.

YABU.

And wrong.

For all the reasons mentioned already.

Going no it doesn't (if done properly) I will leave in gear with handbrake and you take handbrake off when you feel the bite. No lurching.

I do handbrake neutral. It's how I was taught. And it stopped my car lurching into the car in front when I was hit from behind at a set of lights. If you know the lights, you can judge how long you have and put into gear at the right time ready to move away so no delay.

When did we get so busy that an extra second at traffic lights putting car into gear caused such a problem?

Nurr, I am wondering if I meant it lurches when the engine is turned off with the car in gear.

It's fine, the problem is actually the people who don't observe the lights and change back into first during amber. I'm usually stuck behind those ones!

My clutch cable snapped at traffic lights on a very busy roundabout in rush hour about 20 years ago. After ten very stressful minutes two lads in a van pushed my car off the roundabout, but I've been nervous about putting unnecessary wear and tear on a clutch ever since.

Bearfrills Yes had one of those today arrogant c* in a range rover was doing a good 70 he was one car length away as he couldn't get past jabbed the brake lights a few times didn't take the hint so i dropped back from the car i was allowing in case i had to stop least wally behind would have a bit more time to react might stop him smashing in the back of my car!

Finally he came past pratt was using a hand-held mobile phone! Just where are the police when you need 'em eh?.

Female relative once used to at most any stop put the car in neutral plus handbrake on then would have the clutch depressed and be doing some 2500 to 3000 revs whilst waiting.

She just said that's the way I am going the do this and I'm not going to change my ways to what you think i should do!

Not the sort of car you'd want to buy second-hand;!

Glaring lights and wearing out the gears by keeping them in gear great idea.

I mean the wearing out the clutch.

* YABU .You are meant to put your handbrake on when you stop. My colleugue and her dd were knocked down on a zebra crossing by a car which was shunted from behind by another car. If the car which hit them had had their handbrake on it would not have happened. As it was she sustained serious head injuries and her dd was lucky to escape unscathed.*

But the foot brake is far more effective and powerful than the handbrake. Maybe this driver was just sat in neutral (sadly)?

when I'm on a country road waiting to turn right, I want my foot on the brake. not the pathetic handbrake on.

I drive an auto so not too concerned with the clutch!

Why would you not put handbrake on/engine in neutral at lights???

Rests your leg, better for safety and more economical for fuel/gearbox/clutch!

As someone who was in an 8 car shunt and was the only car who didn't hit anyone due to leaving a good gap and having the handbrake on/neutral and can smugly say YABU!

Ok, nice one Kanga. You have quite successfully both trolled and been a goady fucker.

Well done. Huge congrats. What a huge personal achievement this must be for you.

I used not to but since developing sciatica I take any opportunity to change position and wiggle my feet.

sitting on your clutch just breaks it, i'm Miss 3 new clutches in 18months my mechanic now runs if he sees me and i now drive an automatic

i do handbreak neutral now

If you are shunted from behind you are unlucky to keep your foot on the brake in any way that is effective.

awesomeness What!, three clutches in 18 months?
Can you say why you did that surely you weren't taught that way?

Aworldofmyown Precisely! for that sort of reason. Your handbrake is meant for parking purposes but it can retard a car quite well and once upon a time you were told to use it in an emergency like if your main brake failed which these days is a very rare occurrence since the advent of dual circuit hydraulics.

It doesn't wear out the clutch if it's fully depressed. If you're touching it all the time while driving yes it will wear out.

Why do you even care what kind of break people use?

Pathetic.

Not to the OP, though, how does anyone get dazzled by break lights? Fog lights, I'd understand, but break lights? Really?

If the car which hit them had had their handbrake on it would not have happened.

Actually, if the arsehole that hit the car had been more careful, they would not have been hit. It's hardly the fault of the car that got hit.

to be fair, they were 3 different cars, all quite old so for all i know clutches were going when i got them etc and i do have more wear and tear on a car than normal. i wasn't taught that way, just a bad habit i picked up, i do drive 1000s of miles a year, towing too so anything to make it easier

and i now have an automatic towing car and auto day car........i'm not allowed to touch OHs manual