This has been done to death but even so - workmen and toilets

[RebeccaWithTheGoodHair]

So two workmen arrive at 8.30am by 10.30am BOTH had been for a shit. And they'll have working here by 12pm. That's less than four hours when they could either have gone before they set off in the morning or waited until they left.

One is stinking the whole ground floor out and I just know there is going to be something left for me to clear up when the stench has died down a bit.

Why, why, why would you go to someone else's house for a crap.

And I don't believe workmen suffer unduly from loose stools compared to the rest of the population but every single bloody one that comes here feels the need to offload as soon as they walk through the door.

The breastfeeding analogy is a shocking and ineffective analogy. It's also very revealing. Why single out breastfeeding, and not just say 'eating' or maybe drinking? They're bodily functions too.

Some people haven't read the actual facts. OP did have to clean up behind the workman.

OP has repeatedly stated that she does understand that people need to use toilets, and that not everyone is able to wait. She just wanted to have a quick rant about how frequently this seems to boil down to workmen doing messy shits in her loo.

But no, she's not allowed to prefer that not to be the case. Jeez.

We've established on this thread that people vary greatly in their ability to plan toilet stops. Fine. So why do all the 'must-shit-now's assume that ALL the workmen in question (and there have been a lot of anecdotal examples) are also 'must-shit-now's and have no elements of choice, when half of us can confirm that we're perfectly able to plan?

Some people just can't bear to let any source of annoyance go unchallenged. Heaven forbid a Mumsnetter voice any sort of dissatisfaction with anything less than full global nuclear conflict. We must be totally happy with everyone's behaviour, and clear up their skid marks with s smile on our faces.

Rebecca I'm with you. Hate it, hate it, hate it! Had a guy come to fix my freezer once who asked to use the loo when I said yes, he said he might be a while. He bloody was - it was awful. As he left he said, 'sorry about that'. I wanted to kill him! Actually still do thinking about it

I've had a good laugh at this post....hyacinth bouquet is alive and well and is on mumsnet.

When you've got to go you've got to go. Granted, he should have tried to clean up afterwards

I think it's like a marking of the territory thing. Choose your workmen wisely, don't engage one that looks macho man, they are the ones that seem to take pleasure in not only leaving a smell but also evidence.

I really hate this so I never let anyone work in my house if they are that bullish type.

Hmmm. Whilst I realise I have commented too much on this thread and am obviously 'over-invested' as they say... can't help but wonder how I'd cope if I was a 'must-shit-now'. I'm a secondary school teacher. It's never been an issue because, as I've proved, I am anally retentive and can hold it in for days if need be. But you can't just leave the classroom for a shit. You can be teaching for at least a couple of hours without a break. Does that mean that 'must-shit-now' types are effectively barred from the teaching profession?

Men, of the trades variety, simply do not care about who's loo they use. Generally speaking, they couldn't care less if they tried, and would probably be amazed to discover that they should care.

What they should be perfectly capable of, as human beings, is cleaning up after themselves. Incredible.

But you can't just leave the classroom for a shit. You can be teaching for at least a couple of hours without a break. Does that mean that 'must-shit-now' types are effectively barred from the teaching profession?

Hmmm Orwell that's an interesting response. Also very original.

No, my dear, it's nothing to do with being an academic or with the kids being poor lambs. It's to do with the fact that you can't just swan off out of the classroom when you feel like it. Rules and all that. Ever been in a school?

Oh and I've just reported your completely unprovoked and weird attack.

What IS your problem?

V weird! So much venom - and I thought we were all having a fairly civilised chat...

Not a tradesperson. And suitably chastened. I apologise for my venom - wholeheartedly - but stand by my view that a) people can't always poo at will / at home / before work but b) should always clear up any mess. Am not allowing myself back on this thread as its turned me into a nasty person. Sorry again. But please don't suggest builders etc are all sweaty beer filled shit machines. Every man in my family is a tradesperson of some description and it's horrible to see people tarring then with the stupid brush.
Sorry again.

Aww Orwellschild - we all make a tit of ourselves on threads at some point (that's not goady... maybe it's just me ).

Anyway, you are right, not all tradespeople are like this. I think it just sticks in the mind (and the throat) when it appears to be done wilfully.

There have been several awful examples on here but I think the one who crapped in the unplumbed toilet is probably the worst. Although the delivery man does stick out as well!!

I also think we do have a consensus that:

• a lot of people do have to go when they get the urge, which is possibly where IWBU
• but we all agree that people should always clear up after themselves

The end.

I've builders in my house (well not right now, they left an hour ago). There's currently no toilet, hasn't been since yesterday. Where they are going I don't know, maybe they aren't must shit how's but don't go evers

Interestingly an ex colleague who worked as a home carer regularly went to a house where the lady owner locked the bathroom whilst they were there. Not only inconvenient for the carers but also a huge no no for infection control.

I once opened my bathroom door to find one of our builders reading a newspaper whilst having a crap! I have no issue with anyone needing the loo but was very glad I wasn't paying him by the hour 🙄

Has anyone suggested it's a terrritorial thing yet
I would thoroughly bollock them. If they're brazen enough to do it then they can take a telling off and get told to bloody well clean it up.