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This has been done to death but even so - workmen and toilets

375 replies

RebeccaWithTheGoodHair · 12/09/2016 11:58

So two workmen arrive at 8.30am by 10.30am BOTH had been for a shit. And they'll have working here by 12pm. That's less than four hours when they could either have gone before they set off in the morning or waited until they left.

One is stinking the whole ground floor out and I just know there is going to be something left for me to clear up when the stench has died down a bit.

Why, why, why would you go to someone else's house for a crap.

And I don't believe workmen suffer unduly from loose stools compared to the rest of the population but every single bloody one that comes here feels the need to offload as soon as they walk through the door.

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FoxesOnSocks · 13/09/2016 14:03

Judging by the toilets in my work place not cleaning up after yourself is not confined to trades men, or even men in general.

There's been at least one person in the thread who said she'd refuse access to the toilet (I do believe she wasn't happy her husband had allowed access to the facilities)

I'm sure I read once that IBS is higher amongst trades men - something to do with denial of access: though it might have been made up by a woman who loves cleaning up others shit with tissue paper.

Also in pretty sure no one said they'd like to lick shit of walls - I think the licking comment came from someone telling the op that it wasn't that bad unless she (the op) intended licking the bowl clean.

Leaving skid marks behind is grim - currently training my DSs how to clean a toliet Older ones already trained.

Blueskyrain · 13/09/2016 14:17

" And again, the OP was not about forbidding workmen from using the loo but about people with poor manners who leave the loo a mess."

The OP:

"That's less than four hours when they could either have gone before they set off in the morning or waited until they left. "

and

"Why, why, why would you go to someone else's house for a crap."

The comments above were complaining about them crapping in her house, not saying that it was fine for them to do so as long as they were tidy. the OP was NOT about cleanliness, but about them crapping in her house.

The OP is backtracking now, but when this thread kicked off, she hadn't even been in the bathroom. Given what the OP says, plus the timing this couldn't possible be just about cleanliness.

PepsiPenguin · 13/09/2016 14:23

Even though she said those things she toll let them use her toilet she didn't say "no you can't use my toilet" did she.

She obviously is questioning why they couldn't have gone some where else, that's different from saying no you can't.

Of course if people actually cleaned up after themselves like adults threads like this just wouldn't exist.

shaggedthruahedgebackwards · 13/09/2016 14:59

But when the OP started the thread she hadn't even entered the loo to check how it had been left. Her main beef was about the poor chaps actually going for a dump in her loo rather than using facilities elsewhere before of after the 4 hours they spent at her house.

"why would you crap in someone else's loo"

Those of us defending the workman, aren't saying it's fine to leave skids or a huge floating turd in someone's loo, we are just pointing out that if you spends several hours in someone else's house it is perfectly reasonable that during that time you mind need a poo and doing it in the loo is generally the most obvious solution!

LagunaBubbles · 13/09/2016 15:08

Ok mess is one thing but I dont get all the horror about smells, such as this

The fucking horrific smell wafted down to me within a couple of minutes, on a different floor at the opposite end of the house. Disgusting

Shit smells. Basic fact.Sometimes no amount of opening a window, air freshners etc can disguise or get rid immediately.

shaggedthruahedgebackwards · 13/09/2016 15:10

Good point Laguna

Perhaps some Mumsnetters do poos that smell of Jo Malone candles??

LagunaBubbles · 13/09/2016 15:23

I wish my DHs did thats for sure shagged!

Itsmine · 13/09/2016 16:55

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Doggity · 13/09/2016 16:59

YANBU to think it is revolting to leave a toilet is a dirty state. YABU to expect people to time their craps Hmm or to be surprised when they need one, even if they're only with you for a short while. That said, if they weren't such dirty bastards, you wouldn't have known their toilet habits anyway.

Itsmine · 13/09/2016 17:14

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dowhatnow · 13/09/2016 17:21

You obviously don't appreciate that some of you get a lot more warning than some of us. I've been in some pretty hairy situations when I've not known whether I would make it to a toilet in time. Fortunately I've not actually had an accident but I do know people who have, or have had to do it in a very compromising and embarrassing place.

Most of the time I don't have a problem but sometimes I do. People are different and not all like you. Is that hard to understand?

shaggedthruahedgebackwards · 13/09/2016 17:25

It might be possible to 'hold on' to a poo for several hours but why would/should you, if you are working in a building with a fully functioning toilet?

Cleaning up after yourself is a separate issue entirely and I'm certainly not about to defend anyone leaving skidders behind but I really don't understand the implication that we should all be neurotic about having a poo anywhere other than in the comfort of our own home

Doggity · 13/09/2016 17:30

Itsmine Well, I do have bowel disorder but I also have common sense. You may think "ooh I need a poo" and you were only visiting someone for 15 minutes and knew there was a public toilet, you'd wait but would you really wait a couple of hours?! Bowel habits are variable, it's normal. Why do you expect everyone to be like you?

Itsmine · 13/09/2016 17:43

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ItsNiceItsDifferentItsUnusual · 13/09/2016 17:52

Laguna I hardly think I'm unusual in finding the smell of poo unpleasant. I'm aware shit smells, doesn't mean I want to smell it.

ItsNiceItsDifferentItsUnusual · 13/09/2016 17:54

And if he'd opened a window or sprayed air freshener I wouldn't have batted an eyelid. I'm fine with people using toilets to poo in, funnily enough. What I'm not fine with is not even cracking a window so that within a matter of minutes the entire - and I mean entire - house stinks of your poo.

WankingMonkey · 13/09/2016 17:56

As someone who shits twice a day, I would expect someone working at my house for 4 hours to have a large chance of needing a shit during said hours.

What I don't understand is how on earth some peoples shit smells so bad it makes your eyes water from another room. Always seems to be blokes too (with the exception of my MIL)

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 13/09/2016 18:01

I think people rougly poo around the same time everyday don't they?

And yes, I do poo at the same time each day. I thought most people did

Why would you think that?Confused

dowhatnow · 13/09/2016 18:10

Of course we are all different, however none of my family or friends have this instant/can't possibly wait urge either

Some of mine do. Grin Poor bowel control ob viously runs in my family.

dowhatnow · 13/09/2016 18:11

And I don't poo at the same time each day either, or even every day. I have had periods of when I have but also many periods of time where my habits are not regular.

Why am I discussing this with complete strangers? Grin

Ifailed · 13/09/2016 18:12

I seriously don't get this.
You seriously don't get the concept that some people can't hold in shit for 4 hours or whatever, despite being told repeatable by people on here that they can't?

FoxesOnSocks · 13/09/2016 18:18

Seems weird that some posters (well one at least) seems to take a person not wanting to retain for hours to be the same as dropping thier trousers and defecating in the street.

Generally it's a case of think 'ooh need a poo there's a toilet in the vicinity and I've time I'll go'. Though to be honest I don't think people even think that as an actually thought - to many it's like needing a wee - why hold on if you don't have to?

tighterthanscrooge · 13/09/2016 18:26

When I was pregnant I couldn't hold a poo, if I had to go I had to go! At work, toilets in shopping centres, people houses, I can hold it now for a couple of hours but it gives me horrible stomach pains so if there's a toilet I will go

Itsmine · 13/09/2016 18:27

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Ifailed · 13/09/2016 18:39

Itsmine
You seem to be back-tracking, as you stated If you're a workman you don't shit in clients houses.

Face it; the cleaning up after using a toilet is absolutely correct, I doubt if anyone would disagree. But the concept that "workmen" aren't allowed to shit on site, because you can time yours to the minute, is crap.

Oh and the bed delivery man, think we've got the message.