This has been done to death but even so - workmen and toilets

[RebeccaWithTheGoodHair]

So two workmen arrive at 8.30am by 10.30am BOTH had been for a shit. And they'll have working here by 12pm. That's less than four hours when they could either have gone before they set off in the morning or waited until they left.

One is stinking the whole ground floor out and I just know there is going to be something left for me to clear up when the stench has died down a bit.

Why, why, why would you go to someone else's house for a crap.

And I don't believe workmen suffer unduly from loose stools compared to the rest of the population but every single bloody one that comes here feels the need to offload as soon as they walk through the door.

Ha ha - DP spoke to the business owner, told him it was fine to use the loo but it's a private house not a building site and he wasn't impressed with the state it was left in.

The business owner was suitably disgusted - itsmine and expat you would have approved of his attitude! He has promised to send different workmen when they come back to deal with the niggles.

(The building niggles not anything gastric.)

Perhaps he'd been in his van for a while and was desperate by the time he got to yours. Going out of his way and stopping off at Tescos might have put him off schedule by 20 minutes or so, leading to customer complaints. And TBH given a choice of a loo in Tescos or a nice clean customers one, I know what I would prefer, particularly if he is as precious about his personal habits as you are.

No excuse for leaving the toilet in a mess but a bit of smell? How very anal of you - no pun intended.

itsmine is hardly backtracking - she's answering different points at different times in the conversation!

Nah,they started work at 8.30am, it's a small local business so they'll live within a few miles of here at most. They were here four hours in total. Both of them had a shit.

One stunk the ground floor out and left loose bits of poo floating as well as splatters all the way around.

Now, one of them may have had bowel trouble and been unable to help himself. But both of them? Unlikely. So I think I'm right to ask why they couldn't have done it at home, or after they left to go for lunch.

I think she was pretty clear, RebeccaWithTheGoodHair

Anyway, you've got things sorted out, and the bad behaviour of your previous workman has been addressed, good for the business owner to take action.

Good on your DP, Rebecca.

So it is about you being outraged that they pooped then, not that they left it dirty?

If you were just worried about cleanliness, you wouldn't keep mentioning Tesco's, or 'why couldn't they go at home'.

Sort of relevant here, I used to work in a busy bar, and I swear the toilet habits of some are actually vile

On a near weekly basis someone missed the loo entirely and shat on the floor? Not even diarrhoea..a 'normal' plop of poop. Sometimes covered up by loo roll, sometimes not...

This wasn't only in the mens either, though one man shat in the urinal once. WTF goes through these peoples minds...

Omg stop press MUMSNET is literally full of people who think their shit doesn't stink.

Get over yourselves.

I have no doubt you op are the sort of person who doesn't offer people a drink as well aren't you?

Learn to do the work yourself and you won't need a nasty smelly tradesman stinking up your toilet.

For the love of God.

Omg stop press MUMSNET is literally full of people who think their shit doesn't stink

I beg to differ; MN is made up of either people who are regularly full of shite or people who offload their shite whenever they feel like it.

'I have no doubt you op are the sort of person who doesn't offer people a drink as well aren't you?

Learn to do the work yourself and you won't need a nasty smelly tradesman stinking up your toilet. '

Gees, is it really too much to expect professionals who work in your home to clean up after themselves and not expect to be waited on?

Gee. Is it too much to expect that people leave their bodily functions at home and don't even think about using my toilet to do what it's bloody well designed for?

I'm sorry for your life. I'm sorry that people use your toilet to evacuate their bowels, when they should obviously use their own toilet as of course because they are tradesmen they are trained to go to the toilet before they leave their house and not use your toilet which is obviously so pristine you eat your breakfast off of it.

It's a fucking toilet. For fucks sake.

Cubtrouble everything you said.

Orwellschild Love your comment I can't believe this thread has run into day 2 and onto page 13. And no i'm certainly not going to waste my time reading 13 pages of debate on this topic.

celeste yup. What a load of nonsense. Because no one shits in a toilet. Just think about all of those times you've had diarrhoea/ given birth and nearly or have actually shat yourself. Then remember that toilets are for shitting and pissing.

Idiots.

Years ago we had workmen in. On their last day, I told them to post key back through my door as I would not be home in time from work. What a surprise I had waiting for me! The toilet was absolutely filthy. I did not mind them using it for a number one or two but they should have cleaned up after themselves.

How does an adult not clean up after themselves - male or female? In my home growing up this was a given. My dh always does and so do I. Our dc are also taught to do the same.

The original OP was suggesting that tradesmen shouldn't have the audacity to use someone's bathroom.

Of course people should clean up after themselves. That's a given. But being weird about someone using your toilet for a shit is unbelievably precious, and many on here have suggested they would be uncomfortable with that. If you don't want people to shit in your toilet, don't have people in your home. Do your work yourself. And to say along the lines of "I would stand outside with a can of air freshener" is so fucking pathetic. We all shit and piss and vomit and we all stink from time to time.

Itsnice of course the smell is unpleasant - my point was in regards to being able to smell it and how "disgusting" - people can't help how it smells! And no amount of fresh air and freshener will change that at times.

It seems to me that OP was saying she'd rather the workmen shit at a public loo, not that this is a policy she polices (as evidenced by the fact that he did use her loo). Can't we all understand that? especially given all the anecdotal evidence of workmen leaving horrible messes... I would much rather not have a stranger making a mess/stink in my loo - but realise that sometimes you do have to take the risk because you can't deny someone in your home access to the loo. That's what I understood OP as saying - are people deliberately misunderstanding?

Lots of the "really don't mind who shits in my house" people are constantly saying is 'we're not all the same; some of us can't schedule poos.' Fair enough. But neither are we all the same about our attitudes to poo... I have always been really freaked out by poo. Genuinely. Bit less so since having kids (for obvious reasons) - but at one time, the thought of a stranger skidding up my loo would have basically ruined my day. It's a bit of an OCD thing I guess. But those feelings are not that uncommon.

The horror I feel at the idea of someone messing up my toilet in that way would only be exceeded by the thought of them using a toilet brush to 'clean it'. I know there's quite a lot of controversy over toilet brushes on MN but I've never actually seen the threads. All I know is that keeping an object next to your loo that is actually and regularly used for scraping away at poo is more than I can cope with. Thought everyone was like me...