To think the concept of 'celebrity' is meaningless now?

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I've seen the trailer for Celebrity Island with Bear Grylls about give everyone times now, and I honestly don't recognise a soul. I know these programmes never exactly attracted A-listers, but at least you used to know who they used to be. One of the 'celebs' in Big Brother recently was Arianna Grande's brother. Seriously? Is that all it takes now? I'm not even sure Arianna Grande is a celebrity, never mind her siblings!

TV seems to have become a never-ending, self-consuming cycle. Famous people with any actual talent are too expensive, so the airwaves are filled with Essex/Chelsea/Jersey/Geordie clone shows full of thick, self-obsessed orange tarts (of both genders). These people then apparently become celebrities, handily filling up the other cheaply made 'Celebrity Clapham Clinic' type shows. Where are the people who can actually DO something?!

Clapham Clinic 😁 Damn you AutoCorrect!

I absolutely hate 'celebrity' programmes and it pisses me off that these people get so many opportunities to pollute our TV's!

a lot of the programmes would be just as good, if not better if they had 'normal' everyday folk on. for example there was a show on BBC 2 called a week on the wild that sounded good, as soon as saw it was so called 'celebrities' I decided not to watch

Yes there seems to be an ever growing pool of people who gain a teeny amount of fame by getting drunk and shagging and scrapping on one show thus and then being invited on another show to get drunk and shag and scrap but this time as an alleged celeb.

David Niven would not approve.

The bloke who won Celebrity Big Brother being a prime example. Never heard of him!

Yanbu, I really despair with this type of shit. My nephew wants to be a youtube star when he grows up .

Applauds!
Yes! I hate 'celebrity' anything, as I don't watch made in Chelsea, TOWIE, Geordy Shore or any of that crap, so therefore don't know any of the 'celebs'

Ditto why I never by magazines anymore- I don't know who you are, and I definitely don't care how you got your bikini body!

What I really hate is when people say,
"I want to be a celebrity"

What the fuck does it mean?
Surely they want to be an actor or singer or even a TV presenter? Nope, they just want to be a celebrity.

Oh yeah, the fact that youtube stars exist and that they make £££££ for their youtubing and putting their face on some merchandise makes me feel like an old fossil.

Don't diss Ariana Grande. I love Cat Valentine.

Otherwise, YANBU.

It's all awful. I find it so depressing that there are probably loads of kids out there whose ambition is to 'be a celebrity'. Wanting to get so accomplished at your particular talent or job that you become well-known for it is at least understandable. But wanting to be famous just for the sake of being famous? How tawdry.

David Niven would not approve.

Shagging David Niven is what would have made them a celebrity in the 1st place.

I recognised quite a few in the trailers but then I have teenage daughters who watch those reality shows.

I think you are being a tad unreasonable. As we get older there will be lots of new people we don't recognise but youngsters do because with age you become detached from current popular culture. I can remember my mum pulling scorn at the likes of George Michael because her generation was passed it. Reality tv is clearly quite popular for whatever reason and they are the new celebrity.

Besides its for charity anyway.

They must have some kind of appeal or people would not watch them.

DH and I are always talking about this too. Reality shows are made up of reality 'stars' not anyone actually famous any more.

Excellent role models though. Be on a show, shag around, be pissed all the time, aggressive etc get a spot on 'I'm a celebrity' or 'Big Brother' - show them that you're not really that serial drunk/violent/promiscuous person you make out, get a job with ITV. Appear on every tv panel known to mankind. Get further roles on yet another new reality show. Job for life.

I do understand the appeal of YouTube celebrities.

DD like Zoella. Zoella does a bit of baking, fashion, make up, books and problem discussion. It's basically the format of a woman's magazine in video form.

The thing I hate about it is that people are SO desperate to get on these shows that all morals are thrown out of the window. Getting absolutely paralytic, fighting/having sex on TV, just to get their 5 minutes of fame. It's like a load of soulless zombies.

I dated a guy who was on a reality show YEARS ago and some of the stuff he told me about how they manipulate the media... Ugh.

I'm allergic to any 'Celebrity' programme, therefore yanbu.

YANBU.

DH and I barely watch tv these days.

I flicked the tv on the other night and caught an ad for a celebrity dating programme where some orange Geordie girl with ridiculous lips was saying she was looking for a man who didn't mind that she occasionally wets the bed when pissed. Classy.

Years back there was a show on Channel 4 called The Salon. One of my friends recognised one of the stylists from the show when we were in a bar one night. He looked at us and put his fingers to his lips in a 'please don't tell anyone I'm here, I'll be mobbed' gesture. You perm hair, you arsewipe!