To already roll eyes at the whingy school threads..

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Working in a school, and being totally inundated with both serious and trivial things..

What a cheery positive bunch of people you all are.

I would like to chime in with the others about using the quiet child my quiet child as a tool to discipline the trouble makers. They should not be made my child's problem.
I'm usually laid back and trust that teachers know what they are doing. Not with this though.

I don't have children but I was one

I am not a teacher but I was taught by one. I guess one the same basis, this makes me an authority on them?

I don't hate children. Far from it.

Thought of another one though - what do you expect us to do with your child at break times in winter if you don't send them in with a suitable coat? Just because little Johnny didn't want to wear it doesn't mean you shouldn't make sure he has appropriate clothing for the weather. (And yes, I do know there are some families who might be struggling and quite often staff donate things from home for these cases).

It is however realistic to have a back up plan if you can't get from work to school to pick up a sick child whether that is because you are off site or can't leave work straight away. If it takes you more than an hour to travel from work to school then perhaps you need a contingency plan (or a closer job)

How about you all re-think your jobs if you hate the stupid children and stupid parents so much?

The posters that have said this clearly have misunderstood the thread.

Emergency numbers - no use if the ill DC can't be collected within an hour of calling.

Given that you are expected by the government to commute up to 90 minutes on public transport for a job it is utterly unreasonable to expect a child to be picked up within an hour. The thousands of threads on MN alone should show you how many people don't have support.

Think of the child sat there with a bucket? You think of the child who's family have no money through being sanctioned because the parent can't take a job that's too far away for the school's liking!

Some people have just sent a 4 year old off to school for the first time ever yesterday, or an 11 year old off to senior school

Then they open a miserable thread like this (no offence OP its just the way the posts are going)

And this is a parenting forum, save this shit til later in the term when even the parents are pissed off with their children

It isn't reasonable or realistic to expect an ill child to be cared for in school. Who do you suggest does it?

Realistically the school until the child can be collected. I know that schools have limited resources, but sometimes there will be sick children and the school will have to deal with them in less than ideal circumstances.

It's not even a question of fair or unfair. If you are serving a community that includes 100s of families, they won't all be able to stay within an hour if the school or have friends or contacts who can pick up a sick child within an hour or be able to leave work within an hour.

There will also be parents who are struggling/a bit rubbish and you still have a duty to educate their children.

Well this is a charming thread

I always sit the "lively" and "challenging" pupils at the one table. It means my quieter kids can have peace to get on with their work and I can station myself beside the "less focused" pupils.

As for names on clothes, I hand back several cardigans and jumpers every day with names on. Those without names are waved in the air at the end of the day until someone claims or the bell rings.

I do get a bit at the threads moaning about uniform. It's usually part of the deal of attending a particular school.

I do think this time of year is very nerve wracking for parents though. DS1 started Year 13 yesterday and I thought about him all day.

I can't actually see anything wrong with the thread. Surely this is just common sense? There doesn't seem to be any complaints about the actual job they do just the things that are outside a teachers control but they still deal with the fallout of.

Well apart from the quiet child sitting next to a challenging child

I want you not to believe your child about ridiculous things that they come home with, do you think we would tell the children before the parents, or indeed the staff?

Group of Mums outside primary yesterday were more excited to show each other their newly acquired summer holiday tatts than in anything their children were doing. At least they weren't wearing pj's.

Interesting thread....I think it's unfair to put the naughty ones next to the quiet sensible ones in the hope that the "goodness" will rub off!? This has been going on for years. Recall being at secondary school and our form was known as the good/sensible class so all the troublemakers who had been excluded from nearby schools ended up in our form. We were 13, we didn't know what to do with them and common sense says avoid or be tarred with the same brush!

And please don't move this to "Education" or it won't be half as interesting and no one will pipe up about SN and MN HQ won't delete it.

Place marking - have to work

This thread says much much more about certain teachers than the pupils or parents.

It's only been two days and I already feeling sorry for the teachers at my eldests high school and royally pissedoff at the massive cluster fuck they've made of the new setting system they've decided to implement that no one (governors included) new about till it happened.

The point is that no parent can ever fully understand how much things have changed in parent/teacher dynamics. There is a dramatic increase in parents out for blood for the smallest reasons, they want your head on a stick! I had a parent scream in my face, I thought she would hit me, for a ridiculous reason and I'm not the only one to have suffered this. I don't enjoy my job anymore and this is a massive factor, however I can't leave for the foreseeable future. Parents backing up the school instead of going for the jugular would make a massive difference. I want to note it's not all parents but it's enough to send anxiety levels through the roof.

Especially you, A's mum. Chicken Pox is infectious and uncomfortable. Covering her with calamine lotion and sending her to school because you have an "important" job isn't an option

The worst person I know for doing this is a primary school headteacher. On many an occasion she has sent her dc into school when they have had a vomiting bug. As she is a teacher, I presume she knows the 48hr rule yet chooses to ignore it.

Surely if a "child smells so they've got to be moved", it should be flagged up to Safeguarding?

Is no-one seeing the connection between the school rules on clothing and Parents getting stressed by missing items, or not being able to buy "shoes with Velcro".

When mine went to Primary, uniform was from Asda, now all my local schools have to have logo'd school bought uniform, yet generally the income levels have now dropped.

Most of my area didn't even have house phones, when I was a child, you were looked after when ill, well usually put on a couch with a bucket. The "hour away" rule is ridiculous.

When I explained to my DDs Teacher that there was no point in making my way to her SN school, three buses away, because she'd be home on the school bus before I go her home, I was told to get a taxi. Which would easily be possible had I have been on her wages.

That's beside the Girls that were killed every year, because the school was on the most dangerous in Liverpool and they insisted on late detentions, over Winter. It took around ten girls to die, before it was changed.

Threads like this make me so happy we're home educating...

Birds 10 girls died?? Crossing the road in winter? Presumably the issue was the road rather than the school... A local authority would have to implement traffic control/ road safety measures in this situation, unless it was a motorway. There must be more to that story than school callously issuing detentions regardless of death toll surely!