To already roll eyes at the whingy school threads..

[Ditsyprint40]

Working in a school, and being totally inundated with both serious and trivial things..

[dailyarsewipe]

I actually think that most teachers are great, I agree with much of what has been posted. However the criticism of parents who have to work for a living and the accusation that people don't care about their kids if they are unable to get to school as an emergency within an hour is appalling. The repetition of this just shows how out of touch some people are.

[shrunkenhead]

Let's move this to the education thread now....even I'm getting a bit bored!

[Pseudonym99]

Trouble is, by law we have to send our kids to school. There is no law that requires us to be there within minutes of a phonecall. But the law does require the school to be in charge of a child's welfare whilst in the care of that school. The school is there to do more than just educate the children.

[Ego147]

However the criticism of parents who have to work for a living and the accusation that people don't care about their kids if they are unable to get to school as an emergency within an hour is appalling

I really don't think that's being said by teachers.

[Ego147]

However the criticism of parents who have to work for a living and the accusation that people don't care about their kids if they are unable to get to school as an emergency within an hour is appalling

In fact, I think that's some parents judging other parents - which is standard MN and it has nothing to do with teachers judging parents.

[HoneyDragon]

EgoEgo147 so good, she posted twice

[MidniteScribbler]

I actually think that most teachers are great, I agree with much of what has been posted. However the criticism of parents who have to work for a living and the accusation that people don't care about their kids if they are unable to get to school as an emergency within an hour is appalling.

I don't see anyone who has identified themselves as a teacher on this thread saying that at all. Just Gilly, who seems to be living in Pleasantville.

I don't expect parents to get there within a set period of time. I do expect that they make an effort to actually get there or make arrangements. "I'm at work, I'll go and talk to my boss, but it's an hour and a half on the train before I can get there" is fine. "I'm extremely busy and important so you'll just have to deal with it and send him home on the school bus" is not fine.

[yougottheshining]

Oh dear OP you do sound very unhappy. Have you considered getting a different job? Maybe one where you have to work for more than two thirds of the year? You know, like the parents who perhaps have no physical way of getting to school within the 10 minutes you think they should.

[MidniteScribbler]

You know, like the parents who perhaps have no physical way of getting to school within the 10 minutes you think they should.

FFS, read the damn thread. Not one teacher has actually said that.

[yougottheshining]

Morecoffeenow and Bodsauntieflo did, on page 1. That was how the whole discussion started. They appear to be teachers.

[Topseyt]

Gilly, what a load of weird and utterly ridiculous bollocks.

[Feminazi]

Who would be a teacher these days?

[Middleoftheroad]

Having just had a session on safeguarding, maybe the "smelly" kid desperately needs help, not a droll swipe.

Thankfully, I work with many excellent teachers who have a different mindset to the OP.

[toopeoply]

My tuppence worth, my ds school quite often ring if he says he's not well etc, fair enough, and I'll collect him, usually within 15 mins. He usually miraculously recovers at home anyway.

However, one day he tripped in the playground. Was screaming in pain, but the playground assistant told him to get up. He tried but couldn't. The staff member picked him up, not particularly carefully and took him to the office. No one rang me. The admin staff asked if he could move his ankle, which he could. So I guess they thought he was faking or it wasn't that bad. They gave him ice but he was still inconsolable, so, still no phone call, the assistant head DROVE him to the hospital. The poor wee boy felt every bump and corner. Excruciating. Only when at the hospital (30 mins away) did they call. Turns out he'd completely broken his tibia. Massive open crack diagonal from the bottom of his shin to a bit below his knee. He's still traumatised I think, and for the life of me, I cannot understand why they didn't call an ambulance then call me.

[dailyarsewipe]

I was just about to reply that it was said by a couple of people on page one, which is what started the discussion but yougot beat me to it .

To be fair though, it was a parent who to the unreasonableness to a whole other level though

[dailyarsewipe]

Too - an ambulance for a fractured ankle?

[dailyarsewipe]

Huge apologies too - I've just read that again and seen that it was a very nasty break.

[Ditsyprint40]

Oh dear OP you do sound very unhappy. Have you considered getting a different job? Maybe one where you have to work for more than two thirds of the year? You know, like the parents who perhaps have no physical way of getting to school within the 10 minutes you think they should.
I am the OP and never said this!! I don't expect parents to b here within 10 mins. In fact, quite the opposite, j wish parents didn't just turn up because little Johnny text them to say he has a headache.

I love my job, and wouldn't do anything else. The love of children and education is blighted by a lot of the unnecessary crap we get which stops us doing the important stuff!

[Ditsyprint40]

And yes we we get nice holidays, but I've been I've been in work from 7am to 7pm all week, and taken work home. And not paid holidays..

[dailyarsewipe]

Can I just point out (as I do every single time someone points out that they don't get paid for holidays), whether you do or don't, your annual salary is good, if you don't get paid for holidays your pro rata rate of pay is excellent. You devalue your whole arguement by making a big deal of not being paid for holidays.

Many jobs involve working long hours and taking work home, many lower paid jobs.

However, regardless of any of that stuff, it's a bloody hard job that most people wouldn't want to do / couldn't do. It involves immense amounts of technical and interpersonal skills and you do it in the face of massive challenges - from parents / kids / government. Don't devalue yourselves by complaining to the general public about working hours / pay because compared to many many jobs, your conditions of work are really good.

[Believeitornot]

yes we we get nice holidays, but I've been I've been in work from 7am to 7pm all week, and taken work home

I work long hours and take work home. I however get paid a lot more!

I'm not sure of the point of comparing different jobs and salaries unless the comparison is a valid one.

Teachers have a tough and important job and their conditions should be improved to be honest with you.

[toopeoply]

Thats ok Daily, I would have bothered an ambulance for an ankle but the nature of it meant that because he was sitting in a normal car to the hospital, his leg got pulled apart at every turn.

[wanderings]

Sounds like you all love your jobs

Teaching was a lovely and well-respected profession, until Messrs Gove and Morgan (have either of them been teachers?) and others tore it apart from behind a desk in Whitehall.

[jellyfrizz]

Believeitornot, I think teachers talk about not getting paid for the holidays because whenever teachers bring up any issues about their employment there is always someone who pipes up 'How dare you complain because holidays'.

if you don't get paid for holidays your pro rata rate of pay is excellent

Depends what you consider excellent; teachers work on average 57 hours a week (www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-27087942) this does not include any work done during the holidays (highly unlikely).
57 x 39 weeks = 2223 hours a year.

For my area:

Starting salary: 23547 or 10.60 per hour

Top of main pay scale (normally reached after about 6 years if the head isn't trying to cut costs): 34249 or 15.40 per hour.

It's not that bad but well below average rates for a graduate job around here. And to be fair I haven't seen any teachers moaning about pay, on this thread or others.

[Adarajames]

If you cant safely immobilise a broken limb, especially in a child, then calling an ambulance is the right thing to do!