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...to tell my mother we are never going to just "drop the kids off"?

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CheerfulYank · 01/09/2016 00:52

I genuinely don't know if I'm being a massive bitch. Confused

For starters we're all Americans and I know that long distances to you wouldn't seem quite so massive to us, so that may come into play. :) But.

My parents live about 300 miles from us. Takes five hours in the car on a good day. We have three kids (9, 3, 1) so it always takes considerably longer given bathroom stops etc.

DH works 8-6 Monday-Friday. I stay at home and do part time child minding during the school year and don't drive. Blush (I really need to learn and stop being so afraid!) My parents are 56 but my mother is frequently not in fantastic health. She has chronic migraines and thyroid issues and has to get cortisone shots in her knee every few months. :( She works from home and is pretty flexible. My dad also owns his own business but works ib a hardware store on the side. (His business has been slow lately so he's picked up more shifts at the store, too)

Anyway. My DC are the only grandchildren on my side and seem likely to remain so, at least for years. My mom talks a lot about us moving closer but seems to have accepted that won't happen. She's talked a lot about moving closer to us but my dad REALLY doesn't want to. She still talks about it but I don't know how serious it is. She looks at houses occasionally but she admits that if it weren't for us, she would never think of leaving. I would like them closer but it's a lot of pressure for my family to be her only reason for being in a certain place. I would feel like we had to be around every time she wanted to stop by and also like we couldn't move if we ever wanted to. (I don't think we ever will, but who knows.)

They see the kids pretty often. They are really good about coming down and staying if I have a meeting or even a doctor's appointment or something. I NEVER make them feel obligated too but they always offer.

They often have the older two for long weekends at theirs.(Maybe every six weeks or so?) Usually we meet them halfway and drop off the kids. Sometimes they will bring them all the way back and sometimes we meet again. We don't often go all the way to theirs...maybe just a few times a year and then we stay in our family's lake cabin. The reason we don't is that our house is a fixer upper and there's always SOME project or another going. Plus DH and I rarely get to go out together so we use the time the kids are at my parents' to work on house stuff and/or occasionally go see an actual movie that doesn't have cartoon characters in it. :) My mom wasn't fussed about seeing me all that often before I had the kids (we get along well but she's pretty clear on the real draw being the DC) so I never think it's all that important that DH and I go up there.

This weekend is a long one (Labor Day here on Monday) and then DS starts school on Tuesday. A few days ago I was telling my mother that as it's the long weekend I was going to get a babysitter to be with the kids so I could finish the project I'm working on (switching some bedrooms around including repainting and ripping up carpet) because I want the boys to be settled in their new room before school starts. She texted "well you know you can drop them here anytime" and I didn't say anything... probably sent a smiley or something.

Today she brought up the weekend again and suddenly started in on how we never "just drop them off, you only bring them all the way here if you're going to stay at the cabin." Confused I explained that that probably wouldn't happen because DH wouldn't be able to get there before midnight on a Friday night with them and then he would have to come right back on Sunday to get them. She just said "yep, I know" in a tone that implied she and my dad are always doing that very thing. Which isn't entirely true, they never take them just for a few days because it's not worth it with the driving. It's usually a four day weekend at least.

She said she was telling my dad how we NEVER just "drop them off" and he agreed and was angry about it.

I don't know if I'm BU or not but honestly I can't see that we are ever going to do that. I don't drive but even if (when, hopefully) I get my license I can't see driving five hours at night on a Friday and dropping them off and then leaving. If DH or I bring them up there we will stay for the weekend and then come home all together.

She got off the phone kind of quickly after that and I'm not really sure what to make of it all. My dad will drive down to drop the kids off or pick them up and then drive back a few hours later, but I always tell him it's madness and he should at least stay the night. He doesn't usually want to though. Once they drove down and stayed for six hours to see DS's school concert and then drove back home. I have never asked them to do any of this and I always try to get them to stay. We don't have a lot of room but they could sleep on our bed or the couches, but they never want to. My dad has talked about putting a guest room in our garage (he's a carpenter of sorts) and maybe then they would.

I don't want to make it sound like "if you don't pick them up halfway you won't see them as often" but to put it bluntly that's kind of the way of it. DH can't take his whole weekend driving there and back and there and back again and we can't always get away for an entire weekend to stay up there (we have a massive dog too and no one to watch him when we leave so we have to take him with us and he doesn't get on well with my parents' dogs). We could probably make it up every 2-3 months as a family and stay for a weekend but I know she will complain about going that long and also not seeing them "all to herself."

AIBU to say that we are never going to just "drop them off"? Sorry this is so long.

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PerspicaciaTick · 01/09/2016 10:11

5more - of course not. But I would take in the spirit of "You know I would take them if I could" and would reply in the spirit of "And you know I would be very happy for you to have them".

Of course - be as blunt as you like if you aren't bothered about a slowly deteriorating relationship. But the OP posted because her parents are upset and so is she. So presumably she is hoping to improve things?

Stormtreader · 01/09/2016 10:23

"Yes, its a shame youre so far away! The kids would just be exhausted with a trip that long for just a weekend though. When are you moving to CloseTown?"

Both sides can play "Lets passive aggressively mention the thing we all know you dont want to do" bingo.

BarbarianMum · 01/09/2016 10:23

I agree with Perspicacia You do make them sound like an occasionally useful annoyance in your life.

dowhatnow · 01/09/2016 10:31

The quicker that guest room is converted the quicker they can come for a few extended visits, and the quicker the problem is solved.

AnyTheWiser · 01/09/2016 10:41

I think YANBU. How can you subject three small children to being cooped up in a car for five hours at a time, each way? I think your mum is daft for thinking that could happen over labour day weekend too! Journey would probably be longer, and they'd get about 24 hours at your parents, just silly.

Even if you learn to drive (amazed you don't!) it won't make all that travel easier for your children.
Can your parents Skype them? Maybe they'd feel more in touch that way?
Stay cheerful Smile

cheekyfunkymonkey · 01/09/2016 10:42

Is there a decent train/ coach service for the older kids? ( Sorry I don't know the set up in America). Otherwise they can always just see them less.... I wouldn't stress too much about it. If she brings it up again just keep calm and explain you can't do that, and if half way is no longer working for them then you will make other arrangements for the kids and they can see you when you are up as a family.

Gardenbirds123 · 01/09/2016 10:56
  1. Learn to drive
  2. Sort the guest room
  3. Apologise to your parents say how thankful you are to their massive efforts to come to you but explain that until 1. Is done unlikely you will be just dropping off given reality of DH hours.
  4. Explore alternatives- eg is there a train / coach?
2rebecca · 01/09/2016 11:39

I find it odd that someone who lives 300 miles away would expect to have you drop children off with them if you aren't visiting them.
I live in Scotland and my parents lived in the south of England. When my kids were younger if we went down south we went as a family and we visited them as a family. Me going down there to drop the kids off then return would have been bonkers, besides which my parents wanted to see me as they like me and can talk to me not just build endless lego stuff.
I think the granny babysitting thing just doesn't happen when you live that far away.
It sounds as though you have to be careful what you say to your mum in future re child care and not mention it unless you want her to child mind.

bibbitybobbityyhat · 01/09/2016 12:47

I drove 1.5 hours to gps and back yesterday (to pick up the dc who had travelled there on the train the previous day). I do it two or three times a year and that is my limit!

If your mother was seriously suggesting what you seem to think she was suggesting, I think you should be worried about her state of mind/mental capacity. I can't help but think there must have been some crossed wires somewhere in the conversation, or she really was just talking hypothetically.

Dozer · 01/09/2016 13:12

IMO US trains are rubbish and slow!

paxillin · 01/09/2016 13:31

Just say that 20 hours of driving simply are never worth it for 2 days of babysitting. It just isn't feasible. Yes, they will see them less often if they don't do some of the driving.

paxillin · 01/09/2016 13:49

I have family abroad, we go to visit, they come. It is never babysitting. It is for their and the kids' benefit.

Mummyoflittledragon · 01/09/2016 14:08

bibbitybobbity. It's great that you've got nice normal parents, who want to see you. Not all of us do. My mother is also passive aggressive like this. Father deceased.

CheerfulYank · 01/09/2016 14:29

No, no train unfortunately. We do have them but not any going anywhere near where my parents live.

No, five hours is not a normal commute for Americans whatsoever. Confused No one I know would do that distance every day for work. I do know people who keep an apartment and stay away from home all week, but no one would drive that daily.

I don't only go there when we want a holiday. I go there to take the children to see them and then we stay at the cabin because it's more convenient than their house. I love the cabin certainly (it was my grandparents and I have great childhood memories there) but when we stay there it's usually because we were bringing the kids.

I do have in town support; my in laws live here and there is a childminder who will take my youngest occasionally.

My mother and I ARE close. I said that. We weren't when I was a teenagee but are now.

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CheerfulYank · 01/09/2016 14:34

What it's looking like now is that we will all (DH, me, the kids, the dog) travel up there on Friday. Then DH and the dog and I will head home Saturday morning and we will either meet them early Monday or they will be brought back.

I don't know though; as someone said above it's a hard weekend because we're still gathering up school supplies etc and I'm going to want DS to get a lot of sleep the night before. So possibly they just won't go.

Agree the garage guest room is probably the way forward.

I didn't mean to be rude by sending an emoji. If it had been a serious offer like "well how about you bring them up Friday night" I wouldn't have. But "you can drop them off whenever you want" seemed hypothetical.

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PortiaFinis · 01/09/2016 14:51

YANBU at all in the slightest. I'm glad you've come up with a plan that I hope you are happy with.

Firstly I hate all the "count yourself lucky that you've got parents who only live 18,000 miles away and like your children" crap, it's irrelevant.

Secondly whether you should drive or not is irrelevant - it wasn't the question.

Thirdly - I hate things being dressed up as favours that you then have to feel grateful for when actually it's messing with your plans big style with little consideration to what you actually want.

Fourthly, I hate guilt-tripping.

I agree with others - it is entirely ridiculous for your parents to be offended that you don't want to opt to drive for 20 hours out of 48 hours just because your Dad occasionally does choose that option. I hope you have a great weekend and do what you wanted to.

CheerfulYank · 01/09/2016 15:01

Thank is Portia :)

Dozer obviously I have always known that not driving is a problem. What I said was that I have just identified what the actual issue IS.

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SenecaFalls · 01/09/2016 21:47

I seem to remember a thread about a family photo and a colour scheme for clothes which suggests that your mother is not known for being entirely reasonable where you are concerned.

If memory serves it was Cheerful's SIL and BIL who were being unreasonable. I don't think her mom was involved in the picture business at all.

I do tend to remember these things, as an American veteran of many family color coordinated photos.

CheerfulYank · 01/09/2016 22:12

Bahaha I missed that! Yes depending on who you ask, BIL and SIL were BU or else O was being spectacularly controlling and very hard work. :o That thread was quite an interesting look at cultural norms.

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CheerfulYank · 01/09/2016 22:12

Or else I

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getyourselfchecked · 01/09/2016 22:20

I opened this thread thinking it was going to be about going for a poo Blush

CheerfulYank · 01/09/2016 22:24

Ha! Well I certainly would never say I'm not going to do that. :o

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OlennasWimple · 01/09/2016 22:26

Learn to drive, obviously (so so much easier to pass your test in the US!), but that still won't allow you to just pop over and drop the DC off, as if you were 30 mins drive away.

Sounds like she is getting fed up of the drive to collect them, even half way (getting older? Knee hurting sometimes?) but doesn't want to come out and just say it for whatever reason

bikiniandboardshorts · 01/09/2016 22:45

Ugh I feel your pain OP. Although I don't have kids, I do have friends who have moved out of the city and expect us all to drive up to see them at weekends. They are so happy to be out of the city (no idea why, I adore it!) they don't like to come back.

So at least once a month we drive on a Friday night over 6 hours up to see them, and 6 hours + home on a Sunday. It gets my goat.

CheerfulYank · 01/09/2016 23:08

Olenna I love your name! I think she is sick of the drive too, but then she doesn't have to do it. I don't ask, she asks. I would be sure we went there every three months or so if they never came at all, but she usually starts complaining after three or four weeks.

It's hard. Even if I drove, during the school year i childminder til 5 on Fridays anyway. So we wouldn't get there before midnight and would stay the weekend and then drive back early Sunday. It's just a lot. Hopefully the guest room will help as they can come midweek and stay through the weekend instead, especially if there will be room for their dogs. :)

I tried to call her earlier and then texted to say that we are just planning on keeping them home this weekend as I want DS home all day Monday so he can get ready for school and get to bed early. She hasn't responded but that doesn't really mean anything.

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