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Who is BU here? MIL and thank you cards

92 replies

chocolatefudgecake157 · 22/08/2016 14:30

Long time lurker, first time poster

MIL is generally lovely. Very well-to-do, bit of a snob and name dropper but overall she is pretty cool, non-interfering and we get on well.

She is obsessive about thank you cards though. She sends me TY cards for her birthday presents each year. Every Xmas she emails DH (who is 33) with a reminder to do his TY cards and details of his presents (he comes from a large family, most live aboard). They have close family stay with them for Xmas, have done for 20 year. They always exchange TY cards for gifts a week later despite opening them in front of each other.

She'll never openly admit to it but she does judge people who don't send TY cards. She sent a wedding present and new baby present to a friend's son - never received a TY card and went on about it so much that her friend cooled the relationship with her for a while.

Anyway, my family are not TY card people. My dad's culture doesn't do them and my mum just never has.

When DH and I got married, my parents received millions of TY cards from her large family. MIL and FIL ALSO received loads of TY cards even though my family hosted the wedding and paid for pretty much all of it.

Anyway DH's brother recently got married and PILs invited my parents. They get on well (see each other once or twice a year) but it was mostly a political decision I think. PILs had very small numbers and couldn't invite certain groups without offending others etc. so my parents were a neutral option, very close by to the venue and could also have a hand in watching DS who is a toddler. My parents went and all was well but they didn't get a chance to say bye to PILs (busy wedding, they were taking DS home etc etc).

I mentioned to my mum that she should probably send PIL a card to say thanks. I said how ridiculous they are and they are too much with TY cards. in truth I'll admit that I thought MIL will probably be expecting one and that was the main reason for me suggesting it (of course, during a phone call last week MIL did mention how many lovely letters they've had about the wedding).

My mum knows how silly I find it all. She did say she'd planned to send one to the bride's parents but didn't think of sending one to PILs.

Anyway I mentioned it again a few days later and my mum hit the roof, saying she shouldn't have to send them a card, they are pathetic, have me wrapped round their finger and that she won't send one. It then spiralled into a huge row over how ridiculous my inlaws are and how I'm turning into one of them.

My dad, trying to be diplomatic, suggested an email saying something along the lines of it was nice to see them and they enjoyed themselves with no explicit thank you. But my mum won't even do that.

she didn't speak to me for 3 days! We've made up but I haven't broached the subject.

First world problem I know but is my mum right?

OP posts:
DangerousBeanz · 22/08/2016 15:45

I always thought the RSVP cards that said "Thank you for your kind invitation" covered the thanking for the invitation then saying thank you for a lovely time as you left was sufficient.

46 years and that's all I've ever done.

Maybe I'm being judged behind my back.

Fwiw I think your Mil has too much time on her hands if she can wotry about stuff like that.

Cocochoco · 22/08/2016 15:51

Good god, you mean you not only have to go to a wedding, you are supposed to say thank you for doing so! Is it not enough to spend a fortune on getting there, a hotel, an outfit and a gift - and to endure a dull afternoon?

Banana99 · 22/08/2016 15:52

It makes us sound as if your parents should be grateful to have been invited, almost like they aren't good enough (I bet this is how your DM feels).
Did all the other guests have to send one. No probably not.

My DH tried to make me sent a thank you card to MIL for a thank you card she had sent us - at this point the universe would implode.
I think being nice to people is more important than cards.

ollieplimsoles · 22/08/2016 15:53

Every Xmas she emails DH (who is 33) with a reminder to do his TY cards and details of his presents

This made me sick in my mouth a little bit...

TheGreatDessert · 22/08/2016 15:58

I neither send nor receive thank you cards. Clearly not middle class enough.

Some people enjoy being offended. I'd assume your MIL is one of those. Call your Ma and apologise for being a twat then sit back and take great pleasure in knowing that the card will never be sent!

AnnaMarlowe · 22/08/2016 16:02

Cafe the thank you isn't for the invitation it's to say thank you for their hospitality and how much you enjoyed the reception. Similar to sending a thank you note after a dinner party.

FurkinA · 22/08/2016 16:09

Can't understand why your dad didn't just send a card?

FurkinA · 22/08/2016 16:09

Also I would never expect a ty card for people coming to my wedding (especially if it wasn't even my wedding)

CodyKing · 22/08/2016 16:10

Wonders if MIL has shares in a card manufacturer?

Tell MIL your mom doesn't do thank you cards it's bad for the planet -

CodyKing · 22/08/2016 16:10

Wonders if MIL has shares in a card manufacturer?

Tell MIL your mom doesn't do thank you cards it's bad for the planet -

FurkinA · 22/08/2016 16:13

Last year I was chased (via my DH) 4 days after Christmas by my MIL about why a relative hadn't yet received a thank you card. She then chased me twice more over the next two days about it. I was so cross by that point I reacted exactly as your Mum did. I put the (already written, addressed and stamped) card in the bin. I am not a child. I will produce thank you notes at an appropriate time of my own choosing. I may have said this to MIL

anna I hope that the TY card was for a gift you received and that your husband and his mother don't expect you to say thank you to his family for gifts to the children.

5Foot5 · 22/08/2016 16:17

AnnaMarlowe is right. I have never done this myself as I usually manage to thank the person hosting the occasion before I leave and thank them in person. However, I have heard of this being done. I remember my Mum saying she had had a very nice thank you letter from one of my friends after our wedding.

I think your MIL is way OTT but I also think your Mum is being a bit of a grump. Even if she thinks it daft it wouldn't harm to send a note for your sake, just to keep the peace. I would for my DD.

HyacinthFuckit · 22/08/2016 16:20

See, it would harm. Because it would set the stage for more pandering to MILs silliness or desire to see the value of her Clintons shares rise. And for OP to put her own and her mother's wishes aside in fear of MILs bad behaviour.

milliemolliemou · 22/08/2016 16:25

Think DM might just email a quick note to OP's MIL to say "lovely to see you, great wedding". Doesn't take much time and is courteous and perhaps the DP could do it from them both. I can see she wouldn't like to be badgered, however. As to some of the general comments from pps - fine not to send TY cards/emails if the giver was thanked in person or by phone, but otherwise how does the giver know it's been received/appreciated? I've stopped sending presents to various small people after not hearing from them or parents.

e1y1 · 22/08/2016 16:29

A thank you card for the invite?

An invite is given because the person inviting wants the invitee there - they don't have to invite them.

At a wedding, only TY cards should be from bride and groom for the gifts and attendance.

Your MIL sounds barmy!

If following etiquette, it's parents of the bride who request the pleasure of the guests, so can sort of understand your DM sending to brides parents, but not your PIL no.

Also what a waste of paper etc (what does she do with all these TY cards? keep them, bin them etc) not the point of the thread, but still.

blitheringbuzzards1234 · 22/08/2016 16:33

This could escalate into sending TY cards for the TY card. All clearly getting rather out of hand. I'd say let them sort it out for themselves. If MIL is so upset at not getting a TY card maybe she'll mention it to your mum face to face. Then they can discuss the matter, hopefully like grown ups. If not, maybe your mum will tell her what she thinks and then that could escalate ... I'd say keep out of it.

pictish · 22/08/2016 16:45

Your mil is bonkers over the TY cards.

My understanding of TY cards was that they were sent in response to someone sending a gift to you. No need for a TY card when the gift is received and thanked for in person.

A TY card for a wedding invite is just plain daft and your mil needs to get some perspective and stop being so bloody demanding.

In other news, there is little more irritating to me than being hassled by someone else to send cards to other people. I have experience of this for similar reasons and it infuriated me.

ChocChocPorridge · 22/08/2016 16:47

Why doesn't your dad really play peacemaker and send a card or email himself?

Why does your mum have to do it at all?

I don't do thankyou cards (or birthday or christmas cards - not to people we're going to see) either btw, but MIL knows this, and has accepted that I've split responsibility so that DP does his side, so she should be speaking to him not me - luckily she takes this sort of thing pretty well.

crje · 22/08/2016 16:52

Don't import or push either sides traditions.

Suit yourselves as your mil & mother do.

Neither is wrong or more right imo
Each to their own

FantasticButtocks · 22/08/2016 17:43

You choose to try to please pander to your mil for your own reasons. To try to get your DM to dance to this lady's tune, so it reflects well on you, is a bit much.

The mil wasn't even the host of the wedding, so expecting people to write and thank her is just a bit odd. She seems to think she's terribly important and better than others, your own mother included. I think your DM has every right to feel a bit narked, but her reaction is rather extreme.

Some people write TY cards or notes because they genuinely want to communicate their appreciation. Other people your mil do it because it matters to them that they look good doing the right thing. Your DM was correct to point out the similarities in yours and mil's attitudes there. Your mil's attitude is rather shallow, and is about what looks good. Don't follow in those footsteps. Be genuine and be authentic, and respect your DM's wish to do same.

HeCantBeSerious · 22/08/2016 17:52

I'm OTT about thank yous (and it boils my piss when we hand over gifts to members of DH's family and they don't even say thanks at that point) but your inlaws are batshit crazy.

silvermantela · 22/08/2016 19:37

just came on to applaud WhatTheActualFugg who has summarised my thoughts exactly!

Just be glad this has come out now OP rather than simmering for 20 years of card related resentment!

WhatTheActualFugg · 22/08/2016 20:22
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RaspberryOverload · 22/08/2016 20:45

I agree that MIL wasn't host, so why should she get a TY?

But generally, I do thanks in person or by email. I'm not wasting paper writing out cards that'll go in the bin.

user1471462209 · 22/08/2016 20:54

They both sound annoying, and you are just in the middle and think it's all ridiculous!

I think if it was me then it would be made clear to MIL that you are not a TY card family. I'm sure she will deal with it. Don't pander to her.