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Wibu to have scratched this car?

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user1471432527 · 17/08/2016 17:00

Taking dtwins out in our double stroller, cars parked right on the pavement , can't walk on the road, too much traffic. Was I unreasonable to force my pram though, scratching one of the bigger cars in the process?

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Hulababy · 17/08/2016 18:02

www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/waiting-and-parking-238-to-252

It is not always illegal to park on the pavement, wholly or partially.
In London there are specific rules that you must not at all
Elsewhere it depends on by laws, and then there will be signs up.
Otherwise, whilst it is not recommended, it is not actually disallowed.
You must not block the pavement however and you can be issues with a fixed penalty notice if you do.

OP - you could have called and reported the car if it was parked blocking the pavement.

However, you cannot just go around causing damage to someone else's property deliberately.

KatherineMumsnet · 17/08/2016 18:03

Can we call a halt to the troll-hunting please? The OP seems genuine to us, and we'll just have to remove the posts anyway.

CatNip2 · 17/08/2016 18:04

I agree that dicks shouldn't park like this, it makes me so angry, I would probably have crossed the road, but not without taking a picture, reporting him to the police and leaving a "you are a prick"note on the window.

I do wonder OP if you had written instead:

"I am visually impaired, I use a white stick, whilst walking down the road I had to struggle to use the pavement, was I unreasonable to bash the car blocking my path with my stick whilst I tried to get through safely"

I suspect the answers would have been different.

Alleycat1 · 17/08/2016 18:05

Why can't people READ THE THREAD!!!! OP has said the road was too busy to take the buggy out on it - would you risk the lives of DC? She had to squeeze past and thus scratched the car, no criminal intent.
So, I ask again, what would you who think she was BU have her do?

NEScribe · 17/08/2016 18:06

I wouldn't condone scratching it deliberately - but if it couldn't be avoided then it's hardly the OPs fault if it was the only safe route to take with her children.
We live up a (narrow) country lane - and inconsiderate twats repeatedly park outside our drive making it very difficult to get the car out (sometimes impossible if it's a big car parked there.) There is half a mile of country lane before our house but they park opposite our access. Wnhy? I assume because it is 2 minutes closer to the hill for their country "walk". They are going for a bloody walk so why not just start it a few yards sooner. Drives me insane!!!!!!!!

hobnobsaremyfavourite · 17/08/2016 18:06

Always twins

Lunar1 · 17/08/2016 18:06

Do you really think they would have! Don't make me laugh, a car owner trying to press charges in my circumstances would have looked a proper cunt. I could have done a great daily mail sad face if they did I guess.

OvO · 17/08/2016 18:09

I did think it was illegal to park on pavements everywhere in the UK so this thread has educated me about that.

Though a quick Google shows that there's a proposed bill to make it illegal in Scotland - really hoping that happens.

TheGruffaloMother · 17/08/2016 18:17

This is one of the few areas where I strongly disagree with the MN consensus! IMO YANBU. I've often had to push DD in her buggy into a road near our home on a blind bend with no path on the opposite side after discovering that some tit had chosen to almost completely block the path. People are so used to parking on the curb only posing a minor risk that they've ceased to recognise when it's actually very fucking dangerous.

notamummy10 · 17/08/2016 18:17

Sometimes you can't always help parking on the pavements. My suburb is residential with only two main roads running through it, the rest is side streets so the buses can struggle getting down and up them. A street around the corner from me is extremely small and is part of the bus route, so the residents of that street have to park on the pavement.

RhiWrites · 17/08/2016 18:17

I can understand the urge but I think I'd leave a strongly worded note rather than scratching the car.

I sympathise though. I walk along one of these roads where there's no space to get past on the pavement because of cars.

fuctifino · 17/08/2016 18:18

YABU. People seem to take great pleasure in scratching/marking 4x4's for some reason known only to themselves.

As for not being able to cross the road, how do get anywhere Hmm?

TheGruffaloMother · 17/08/2016 18:18

If someone is stood in the way of the disabled toilet, what do you do? Do you say excuse me or do you barge passed them with your wheelchair? Hmm I wouldn't go and walk in the road, that's for sure.

ghostspirit · 17/08/2016 18:21

if the op had put something like. i could not get past a car parked on the path. so i went on the road with my pram. she would then get told about putting her children at risk. cant win...anyway i recon some people like to put yuabu for the sake of it

Beardsareweird · 17/08/2016 18:21

You were definitely not being unreasonable. When I take my mum out in the wheelchair, i won't risk pushing her out into the road just because some annoying tosser has parked their car on the pavement. So far, the wheelchair has missed the car by a few inches and I obviously negotiate past as best I can, but if I were to scrape the car then I wouldn't lose sleep over it.

AvengeTheDoc · 17/08/2016 18:22

I agree that the person shouldn't have parked on the path, but I don't think dishing out your own punishment for something that in many places it seems isn't illegal is wrong. Accidentally doing it but purposefully is being as much as of an idiot as them (if not more). is it just impractical parking or can I smash someone's Windows if the dog barks, or they have their music to loud? If you aren't fond of swearing and you're waiting in a queue and it's annoying you hearing someone can you attack them? If a little kid knocks you with a small shopping Trolley, can you put them in a shopping trolley and throw the trolley into an aisle?

QueenArya · 17/08/2016 18:23

YABU, you just caused criminal damage

HarrietSchulenberg · 17/08/2016 18:23

My street is so narrow that we have to park on the pavements to let other vehicles through. My car occasionally gets scratched by kids on scooters, which I've learned not to get het up about.

I was very cross with the man with the buggy who repeatedly bashed my rear wing with the buggy (with laughing child inside) while his wife and toddler daughter giggled and pointed from across the road. His excuse was that my car was in the way, which it wasn't as I'd pushed my own enormo-pram through the gap only minutes before. I asked what he hoped to achieve with the bashing as it was unlikely to shift the car for him, and was he planning to do the same to the 20 other cars parked before and after it. We had a heated discussion before it became apparent that he lived in the same street, and that his mother's car was parked on the same pavement some 50 yards away. Twat.

Police know about our parking difficulties and agree that as long as there is room for a buggy (there is and was) they don't have a problem.

AvengeTheDoc · 17/08/2016 18:26

Accidentally doing it can't be helped*

TheSilverChair · 17/08/2016 18:26

A street around the corner from me is extremely small and is part of the bus route, so the residents of that street have to park on the pavement.

No they don't they can park in another road. People who park on pavements are selfish cunts.

QueenArya · 17/08/2016 18:26

The road I live on, you HAVE to park on the pavement. Absolutely every single car parks on the pavement.

Someone keyed my car recently. 😞 or scratched it.

I was absolutely devastated and I have no where else to park the car because we are surrounded by Residents Parking Zones.

I HAVE to have a car because of a disability and work.

AvengeTheDoc · 17/08/2016 18:27

Woah my post is written badly, dishing out your own punishment on something that seems like it isn't illegal in a lot of places IS wrong*

witchywoohoo · 17/08/2016 18:27

notamummy They have to park on the pavement. Says who? Eh no they don't. They can park on the road and if they are causing an obstruction by simply parking then the road should have parking restrictions and folk who live on it will just have to .. walk a bit or the bus company should reroute. Why should those with disabilities or children be forced onto roads...in between these awfully parked cars!

Lunar1 · 17/08/2016 18:32

Fuct, that's the problem isn't it. If the choice is crossing the road with no visibility, no crossing, no dropped curb with a very unwell adult in a wheelchair or squeezing through a tight gap, the sensible thing to do is squeeze through regardless of the damage done to the car.

So sometimes, no you can't just cross the road. And yes sometimes you don't get to go anywhere because of inconsiderate twats.

Have you some kind of empathy bypass that you don't understand this. How many of our very limited trips out should have been missed due to selfish wankers?

RustyBear · 17/08/2016 18:32

Interesting anomaly in the Highway Code - it does say parking on the pavement is illegal in some areas, not in others.
However, driving on or over the pavement IS illegal, ie the Highway Code says you MUST NOT, which means it's a criminal offence.
Not sure how anyone can park on the pavement without driving on or over it....

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