I needed routine bloods today at the hospital, explained that my veins were really bad and could I have the baby needle (just to give her an idea that veins are non existent).
So the phlebotomist found a vein which is the only one in my arm worth going near and proceeded to wriggle the needle around 360• and nothing came out. She carried on until I asked her to stop.
I'm not just having a moan, I know how hard it can be for some people with bad veins but being gentle as they can is defiantly the aim.