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to think this is a fake Chester Zoo ticket? Seriously, is it fake!?

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user1469643462 · 01/08/2016 19:34

Yeah, I think we all know now, but is there like a 1% chance any form of ticket looks like this!?!?

This is basically a follow on too

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user1469643462 · 02/08/2016 12:32

I've paid for the whole summer holidays, yes. However, if I lose it, I lose it. As I admit, I agreed to that.

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bumbleymummy · 02/08/2016 12:33

Most people aren't defending her. I think people just thought you would have to speak to her today if he usually goes in on Mondays and you've decided not to bring him.

user1469643462 · 02/08/2016 12:34

He went in yesterday?

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dynevoran · 02/08/2016 12:34

OP I'm so sorry this has caused you so much stress. The vast majority of us are just appalled on your and your ds's behalf and can't believe anyone would be so deceitful particularly in these circumstances.

I'm glad you have found childcare to replace her and I hope she has read it all and is mortifies with herself. You have done well to get to the bottom of things and are totally and utterly correct in that trust is crucial and without it there is no relationship at all

I hope you have a quiet day after all this and can do something nice with ds.

storminabuttercup · 02/08/2016 12:34

I think she has acted terribly and you are right not to send your DS back.

I think posters want you to contact her so you can report back what she says.

PP makes a good point about her trying to charge you if you don't contact her to cancel.

This seems to be really stressing you out and I can totally see why. Be kind to yourself and try not to let it bother you, it's over now!

JeanGenie23 · 02/08/2016 12:34

I mean morally she should give you your money back and if you went down the small claims route it may be returned to you, but this is quite a saga so I doubt it would be straight forward

user1469643462 · 02/08/2016 12:34

They're defending her by saying it's out of order to shame her on the internet...

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storminabuttercup · 02/08/2016 12:34

Cross post there

HerOtherHalf · 02/08/2016 12:35

If you owe her any money, can I suggest you knock up some very obviously fake tenners in MS Paint and pay her with them.

cowssheephens · 02/08/2016 12:35

I'm very sorry OP that you are in this situation but please read Lady message. I'm am worried for the charges that she is in care of ATM and also very glad that your DS is out of her care.

100% agree with Lady

Storminateapot · 02/08/2016 12:38

You will be at risk of still having to pay her for tomorrow OP. I assume you have a contract? She might still try to enforce that since she's obviously unable to admit a lie. I would at least give written notice of your intention not to return in case it gets litigious. A thread on MN isn't going to be admissible.

Sorry you're in this situation xx

user1469643462 · 02/08/2016 12:38

The way she looked at my ds "yes, that's a zoo"... Fuming, absolutely fuming. I actually couldn't care less how shamed she gets, the way she tried to make out like my son was lying and trying to confuse him.

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user1469643462 · 02/08/2016 12:38

I've already paid though

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Storminateapot · 02/08/2016 12:38

Cross post - sorry

MrEBear · 02/08/2016 12:38

Been reading along. I would contact Ofsted.
A, she tried to make you DS out to be a lier.
B, What if he was younger and had was completely confused? I suspect they younger kids now think a museum is called a zoo.
C, What else has she lied about?
D, If something had happened at either the museum or zoo you would have had no idea where he actually was.

She has proven to be untrustworthy but if you don't report it other children will be lied about and parents have no idea.
I have mild mistrust of childminders anyway, I personally could not put 100% trust in one individual. My logic goes you might get a bad apple in a nursery but other staff will dilute the effects and hopefully weed them out but how do you know what really goes on at a childminders?

You owe it to other parents and kids. And more generally to the trustworthy Childminders who are out there would would never dream of trying to lie to parents. The £22 is minor compared to what has actually gone on.

AnchorDownDeepBreath · 02/08/2016 12:38

As I admit, I agreed to that.

I'd be very surprised if the contract between you calls for you to pay when she has fundamentally breached it. Infact, the contract is likely no longer valid. You pay her to mind your child in loco parentis when you are not present. She misrepresented where he was, and what he did, and then tried to get him to lie to you.

I think for other people, her brazen brass neck is amusing - it's almost the shock value. For you, it's more personal and therefore not funny.

Re the zoo, you caught them just after their PR team left yesterday, so they wouldn't have wanted to respond without guidance. As it got hugely popular overnight, they'll have got PR to sign off a response to put there, rather than replying to the hundreds of emails that they've probably got asking if it's real. They probably won't know that you are the "real" person affected by this, and they''ll be reassured that there isn't mass fake ticket fraud going on.

How you handle this now is entirely up to you - you've probably got some reporting to do, when you feel up to it, and it might be legally advisable to give notice in writing and explain clearly why, but you don't need to do anything now if you'd rather spend the day with your son.

Have a good day.

bumbleymummy · 02/08/2016 12:39

Sorry user! I thought today was Monday Confused Blush I'm losing track of time!

How annoying that you had to pay for it all up front. It's really not fair that you should lose that money when she's lied. I wonder how many of the other parents she has conned.

BeyondBeyondBeyondBeyondBeyond · 02/08/2016 12:40

Round of applause for lady stoics post 👏

Voddy4 · 02/08/2016 12:40

Glad to hear you've sorted alternative child care for your son. Do what you feel right for you and your son in terms of contacting or not contacting various authorities.

kirinm · 02/08/2016 12:42

Well, OP there goes any moral high-ground you have. You came here for advice, you've got it, you've ignored it and you have no immediate intention to bring it to an end.

user1469643462 · 02/08/2016 12:43

kirinm, no but how will me telling her he isn't going back resolve it? I havn't ignored it... Not sure if you were on the other thread, but I followed nearly everyone's advice. Seriously, are you related to her or something?

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user1469643462 · 02/08/2016 12:45

I'm also seriously struggling to care if I'm moral, when it comes to my child.

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geraniumsred · 02/08/2016 12:45

I'm pleased you've found a place elsewhere for your son, OP. You must be so relieved! I hope the CM gets her comeuppance, but you're absolutely right to do it in your own sweet time and not while you're spending the day with your DS. I hope he's not too upset or confused by the whole thing!

JudgyMcJudgypants · 02/08/2016 12:45

Did she say she took any other children? How many mums has she lied to?

kirinm · 02/08/2016 12:49

No of course I'm not related to her, I have no idea who she is although I'm sure some people who've seen Facebook do. I did, however, use a childminder for 10 years and and a lawyer so have a tendency to deal with situations rather than hide from them.

If my CM had behaved like yours I would be furious but I would also tell her that I was aware of what she had done and wouldn't be using her services. I would also give her a last opportunity to explain herself. If it gets reported to OFSTED assuming they investigate, that will happen anyway.

This is a serious issue and it deserves to be treated seriously. Having an Internet forum and Facebook post laugh about it, isn't treating it as a serious issue.

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