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To be appalled that DP pronounces the L in almond

323 replies

BumpPower · 19/07/2016 20:01

I say armond.. Am I wrong? Almond sounds wrong..

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MangoMoon · 21/07/2016 00:56

ALmund

(With an AL, not an AARL)

MangoMoon · 21/07/2016 01:02

My DM says it without the L. She dons fat fuckers smocks so I expect she has the right to be pretentious.

Proper, actual lol'd at that AnotherPrickInTheWall! Grin

UsedToBeAPaxmanFan · 21/07/2016 06:16

Ah-mund here as well. I've occasionally heard people say al-mund which just sounds wrong. And ol-mund is definitely an Americanism.

MysteriesOfTheOrganism · 21/07/2016 06:42

Silent L (ahmond) is standard English. Pronouncing the L is a common regional practice.

VertiginousOust · 21/07/2016 07:51

I can't hear an 'L' on that link fox, swallowed or not! It's ah-mund.

derxa · 21/07/2016 07:57

What is a swallowed 'l' ?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharyngeal_consonant

Salmotrutta · 21/07/2016 08:12

I say it the same way as I say salmon - so "ah-mond"

MysteriesOfTheOrganism · 21/07/2016 08:14

Derxa - "pharyngeal fricatives" definitely sounds like something unpleasant that you'd really want to see your GP about.

ethelb · 21/07/2016 09:33

Bad, read my post again. I never said that American pronunciations were necessarily wrong. They are fine if you speak American English.

Indeed some pronounciations are preservations of old English. Al-mund isn't one of them.

LurkingHusband · 21/07/2016 11:21

Quite often Americanisms are actually more olde English than them changing it. When America was discovered and people started moving there from these here shores, they took with them English as it was spoken at that time, some words we have changed, some words they changed. You can't assume they're wrong, they've sometimes merely kept a pronunciation we have changed ourselves.

Hence "Fall" for Autumn, "sidewalk" and "check" rather than "cheque". And watching Michael Stipe (a Georgian) describe something as "Yea high" rather than "so high" ....

It's the UK that's wrong in some respects ....

splendide · 21/07/2016 12:33

Yea high is as much used in the UK as the US I think. I say it anyway - is it a Scottish thing?

TheRealAdaLovelace · 21/07/2016 13:33

another old English word that crossed the Atlantic and then came back via the Caribbean is saying 'aks' instead of ask.
It makes me smile when certain English teachers (I teach TEFL) get all snobby and dismissive about it.
Try the two of them - which is easier to say?

splendide · 21/07/2016 13:35

Ooh that's interesting Ada, I didn't know that.

I find ask easier to say marginally - I guess just because I say it all the time. Do you think one is notably harder to say than the other?

footballwidow12 · 21/07/2016 13:35

Of course you pronounce the L!!!
I would say aLmond in my deepest Lancashire accent!! Smile

TheRealAdaLovelace · 21/07/2016 13:37

Splendide, I find that people learning English find 'asked' hard to say....it's called a 'consonant cluster'. Another one is 'crisps' for example.

splendide · 21/07/2016 13:41

Oh yes that makes sense. In fact my Japanese friend can't really say asked. It has three syllables when she says it.

LurkingHusband · 21/07/2016 15:30

It makes me smile when certain English teachers (I teach TEFL) get all snobby and dismissive about it.

Of course anyone who has read anything really old will be well aware of the mania for abbreviations and glossing when vellum cost a fortune ...

RatherBeRiding · 21/07/2016 15:40

Almond, palm, salmon - the L is silent. In the UK - US pronunciation slightly different.

dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/almond

AcrossthePond55 · 21/07/2016 22:26

I'm in the US, west coast. I, and pretty much everyone I know in this area, pronounces it "Ah-mnd'. I expect it's pronounced differently in different areas of the US due to different regional accents.

And to say 'aks' instead of 'ask' is considered a sign of being low class or poorly educated. Like saying 'ain't' instead of isn't, or using double negatives.

mathanxiety · 21/07/2016 22:29

It's ahmunds around here too.

There is a private school near me where they insist on standard English both spoken and written. Any students who arrive saying 'aks' are saying 'ask' pretty soon.

CocktailQueen · 21/07/2016 22:29

It's ah-mond

Wtf armond???

Oblomov16 · 21/07/2016 22:32

Armond here. Dh thinks I am very odd.

Shizzlestix · 21/07/2016 22:33

Al-mond sounds horrible. Ar-mond sounds better, don't care if it's right or wrong.

MorrisZapp · 21/07/2016 22:40

Come off it! 'aks' being a perfectly acceptable version of 'ask' because of its roots in old English? I'm not having that for a millisecond. This reverse pedantry does my nut in.

Middleoftheroad · 21/07/2016 23:16

If I said Armond or Ahmond to anybody at work, school, shops etc it would be of great amusement to others in a Hyacinth Bucket way. It may be correct, but I would feel a knob with a silent k.