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AIBU to be angry at teacher who refuses DS water on long coach journey???

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Gizzle · 13/07/2016 21:16

DS came home very subdued and downcast after the annual school day trip to the seaside today. Turns out that he left his bag on the beach (not unusual, he's an 8yo boy after all) but luckily it was retrieved by a teacher. However, when he asked politely for the bag, she refused to give it to him for the entire duration of the return coach journey, even though it contained his water bottle and he was clearly very thirsty after a day on the beach. I'm not sure what kind of lesson she was hoping to teach him, but I would have thought that children of this age should be helped towards independence, and not punished into it. And refusing a thirsty child water? Is there ever a case for that?

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frangeslistic · 15/07/2016 23:20

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GabsAlot · 15/07/2016 23:20

never heard such bollocks-after everything ive seen today the world has gone truly mad

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Choceeclair123 · 15/07/2016 23:47

All this over a drink of water?!! Give the poor lad a bloody drink

frangeslistic · 15/07/2016 23:52

Got it in one Choc!

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BoneyBackJefferson · 16/07/2016 00:04

‘those that can, do. Those that can’t, teach” is a corruption of Aristotle’s ‘those that know, do. Those that understand, teach.”

I know quite a few that have gone on to teach, do you just disregard them because they become teachers?

frangeslistic · 16/07/2016 00:05

They're also bloody slow in responding, and make rotten lovers...

frangeslistic · 16/07/2016 00:09

Sorry Boney, I'm starting to feel as though I'm bullying someone who can't fight back. Over and out.

BoneyBackJefferson · 16/07/2016 00:10

frangeslistic

Don't stop on my account you are just proving my point.

PunkrockerGirl · 16/07/2016 00:11

frange I hope you're as embarrassed by your own posts in the morning as I am for you now. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the teacher's staffroom so I could hear their comments after you've been "helping" on a trip
I'm a senior clinical nurse specialist in palliative care, if it's at all relevant.
HTH.
Goodnight. I have to be up at 6 in the morning to be on call and life is too short to engage with anyone who can barely string a coherent sentence together.

DeadDuckFace · 16/07/2016 00:15

Gizzy your ds sounds exactly like my ds. He is super bright, creative and lovely but incredibly absent-minded. He was diagnosed as dyspraxic a couple of years ago (he also can't catch a ball, deal with zips etc). We are working with him on strategies to get him organised and they are helping. Re the teacher - unfortunately I've been on coach trips and felt sorry for kids asking for drinks but most coach companies strictly forbid drinking or eating on a coach so although teacher sounds awful for saying your ds is 'most forgetful kid in year 3' she may not be out of order on the water thing. I have to remind ds to drink water - I still often pick him up and he's forgotten to drink all day and is dead thirsty at pick up. May be worth confirming if teacher said the 'most forgetful kid' comment and if so then following up to say that's really unhelpful, as no kid intentionally forgets things.

Verity23 · 16/07/2016 01:18

If this is the case, then I'd march in to the school and let the stupid bitch have it. It's not on.

limited it was this post that called the teacher a bitch.

Rumpelstiltskin143 · 16/07/2016 02:18

He says the problem with teachers is
What’s a kid going to learn
from someone who decided his best option in life
was to become a teacher?
He reminds the other dinner guests that it’s true
what they say about teachers:
Those who can, do; those who can’t, teach.
I decide to bite my tongue instead of his
and resist the temptation to remind the dinner guests
that it’s also true what they say about lawyers.
Because we’re eating, after all, and this is polite conversation.

I mean, you’re a teacher, Taylor.
Be honest. What do you make?

And I wish he hadn’t done that— asked me to be honest—
because, you see, I have this policy about honesty and ass-­‐kicking:
if you ask for it, then I have to let you have it.
You want to know what I make?
I make kids work harder than they ever thought they could.
I can make a C+ feel like a Congressional Medal of Honor
and an A-­‐ feel like a slap in the face.
How dare you waste my time
with anything less than your very best.
I make kids sit through 40 minutes of study hall
in absolute silence. No, you may not work in groups.
No, you may not ask a question.
Why won’t I let you go to the bathroom?
Because you’re bored.
And you don’t really have to go to the bathroom, do you?
I make parents tremble in fear when I call home:
Hi. This is Mr. Mali. I hope I haven’t called at a bad time,
I just wanted to talk to you about something your son said today.
To the biggest bully in the grade, he said,
“Leave the kid alone. I still cry sometimes, don’t you?
It’s no big deal.”
And that was noblest act of courage I have ever seen.
I make parents see their children for who they are
and what they can be.

You want to know what I make? I make kids wonder,
I make them question.
I make them criticize.
I make them apologize and mean it.
I make them write.
I make them read, read, read.
I make them spell definitely beautiful, definitely beautiful, definitely beautiful
over and over and over again until they will never misspell
either one of those words again.
I make them show all their work in math
and hide it on their final drafts in English.
I make them understand that if you’ve got this,
then you follow this,
and if someone ever tries to judge you
by what you make, you give them this.

Here, let me break it down for you, so you know what I say is true:
Teachers make a goddamn difference! Now what about you

Can for all of you an above who don't believe that and had smart Alec remarks please feel free to answer with just what you do.

LockedOutOfMN · 16/07/2016 02:21

^ What a horrible post. ^ (Not yours, Verity, the one you've quoted).

LockedOutOfMN · 16/07/2016 02:22

Sorry, cross posted with Rumpel.

Rumpelstiltskin143 · 16/07/2016 02:42

Frangelistic. Please do tell what professional you are a member of, because right now it looks like you have done kind of anti teacher complex and could benefit from some professional help.

NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 16/07/2016 02:45

Well I'm not sure what you'd be able to do frangelistic because right now you're sounding seriously pretty dence so not enough intelligence to teach.

So those who can't teach, those who can't teach make themselves sound like fecking idiots on an Internet forum!

Verity23 · 16/07/2016 03:13

I agree LockedOut.

bebees · 16/07/2016 04:10

WOW! I jumped from first to last page of this and an horrified that anyone even questioned whether the poor child should be allowed / really needed water on a long journey home!!?? And that he was sooo awful for accidentally leaving his bag!! He's a child and they do that - not on purpose, they are just caught up in the moment and having fun which is their job!!! And it would be part of the teachers job to make sure nothing is left behind and also make sure all children are properly hydrated. I was a parent helper on a recent school trip for my children's school and there is no way they would refuse a child water !!!

Ditsy4 · 16/07/2016 05:29

Waiting for OP to return to let us know what the teacher's side of the story was. Wondering if her DS hadn't quite told it the way it happened or if the teacher said " I'm sorry but the bus company rules are no food or drink allowed. " I must add in that situation I would have explained and asked the driver's permission. I think it would be unusual for any teacher to withhold a water bottle in that situation and I don't know any who would do it to have " power" over a child.
As for those choosing a career in teaching God forbid that some people might like children, want to help them or those that think like nursing that it is a worthwhile career.

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