Cofree shop etiquette

[Turtlemeter]

Firstly I know I'm probably being unreasonable.
Little turtle is a 5 month old nap dodger. I've got him to sleep in the pram and escaped to Costa. This usually works well as the hum of conversation acts like white noise. Snag the last table and get started on toasty ~and chocolate shortbread~ and family sit next to me. The little boy starts hanging over, rattling and kicking the little metal fence between tables. WAKES THE BABY
I've given cats bum mouth to the mum who has noticed and ignored me. IABU to expect that they'd stop they're little boy being so bloody antisocial.
It's my only escape from the house ~prison~ today and I'm fragile with sleep deprivation.
This is such a ridiculous problem I know.

No! Strike through fail

Par for the course. Not much you can do about it, annoying as it is. Anywhere else to sit away from them?

You caqnnot control the noise in a coffee shop.

I have a 5 month old and I feel for you! Although I also have one of those little boys too.

I never go to cafes

You have no control over other's actions.

Totally sucks and the parents should have kept the boy away from you if baby was sleeping. But not much anyone can do now :(

I feel for you! I used to get so upset with anyone who walked past the front of the house or knocked and made the dogs bark which in turn woke DS.

Hope he slept a bit more on the way home.

Sorry but YABU. You can't ask for quiet in a public place. Soon you will be the mum of that active little boy in the cafe.

And you will Find Out.

When your baby is that age you will look back at this and cringe. And be pissed off that the woman with the baby is glaring at YOU and your noisy toddler.

Annoying - but you can't expect a certain level of noise for your baby and no more in a public place

I find Cafe Nero coffee much nicer and generally quieter in the cafes, if that helps?

I'd have spoken quietly to the little boy, 'hello that's a nice teddy, are you here with our mummy? My little boy's sleeping, shhh.'
Obviously sometimes something noisy happens fast in which case, you have no chance
Hope you grabbed a moments peace and a restful walk home.

Poor you. Poor them too. Hope your baby is a well behaved little toddler when the time comes. Sorry but mine could be awful on occasion.

You could have been a bit PA and said - oh I hope my baby's not disturbing you with his deafening screaming - can't think what woke him up.

Its ok-just face the crying baby in their direction. They'll soon bugger off.

Oh dear, I feel for you, I used to walk miles waiting for my twins to drop off. In summer I'd take a book to a bench be the river in winter I'd sit in the library with a book.

I had to stop going to a local coffee shop because several times other patrons deliberately jiggled the pram to see what they looked like awake (screaming mostly as it turned out)

What pp said is also true - in a very short time your DS will be the noisy kicking little boy. Karma gets us all in the end...

in the meantime though.

YANBU

Welcome to the world of other parents. Sadly, you will have to deal with them for a a long time, the ones happy to let their kids run mayhem everywhere whilst they are chatting with their friends or too busy with their mobile phones.

I wouldn't take my own kids in a cafe or restaurant if I didn't know they would behave, even if it means going to the park for an hour beforehand.

The fact that the woman didn't bother apologising, let alone make her child behave tells you all you need to know. Wait until your little one is old enough for soft plays and park. Sadly it only get worst!

YABU. Sorry.

I had nap dodging DTs and would never have taken them into a coffee shop once they were asleep - I had to walk and walk and walk and then walk some more so I feel your pain but you cannot expect little kids to not make noise in a coffee shop!

That's why I get a costa/Starbucks drive thru

""The fact that the woman didn't bother apologising, let alone make her child behave tells you all you need to know""

That the other Mother regards her sit down with a coffee, her right as much as the OPs and children make noise, just like Babies can scream and stink.

It does somewhat depend on the child's age.

If it was my ds I would try to stop him making that noise but he might still continue or do something else noisy instead.

Yabu, it's not the place to be expecting quiet time for your child to sleep. And besides you might be that mother one day. She doesn't need to apologise to you.

Our costa has just taken out the little mental fencing that the children used as a climbing frame :) :) :) Lot quieter in there now.

YABU. You know he's a napdodger. He doesn't sleep well during the day so if the noisy little lad hadn't woken him something else probably would.

That being said I would have been gutted to have been geared up for a tasty snack in peace and then had it snatched away so I don't blame you for BU.

Yabu but I totally sympathise. Something else would have woken him, probably that awful loud coffee grinding machine.

However, it does annoy me when parents allow their kids to be disruptive and antisocial in any public place, particularly if you've paid for your food and drink and expect a certain level of behaviour. Not silence but not banging and screaming, either.

Sometimes banging can't be helped. In ds's case sn related. If there is some way of banging he can be relied upon to find it.