Cofree shop etiquette

[Turtlemeter]

Firstly I know I'm probably being unreasonable.
Little turtle is a 5 month old nap dodger. I've got him to sleep in the pram and escaped to Costa. This usually works well as the hum of conversation acts like white noise. Snag the last table and get started on toasty ~and chocolate shortbread~ and family sit next to me. The little boy starts hanging over, rattling and kicking the little metal fence between tables. WAKES THE BABY
I've given cats bum mouth to the mum who has noticed and ignored me. IABU to expect that they'd stop they're little boy being so bloody antisocial.
It's my only escape from the house ~prison~ today and I'm fragile with sleep deprivation.
This is such a ridiculous problem I know.

[upthegardenpath]

I found it easier, at that age, with similar nap dodger, to get my caffeine take away, plus a bun, and sit in the park.
Far nicer than Costa

[honkinghaddock]

Sometimes banging, in our case sn related, can't be helped.

[honkinghaddock]

Oops. Double post.

[Seryph]

YANBU.
Sorry, but a coffee shop is not a playground. Yes of course the other mum has a right to five minutes peace, but not to the detriment of other customers.

Stopping your children from climbing and kicking IS your job as a parent.

[GoldPlatedBacon]

Annoying but as pp you can't expect a certain level of noise. I do sympathise though, my dd has been a nightmare sleeper recently. I took her for a walk and she was out of it - hallelujah 🙌. Unusually the tiny village cafe was empty so I went in and ordered a coffee to have in. Just as it was served a guy came in and in his best Brian Blessed voice shouted 'CAN I HAVE TWO CAPPUCCINOS' it made dd jump so much that she screamed her head off. I had to pour the coffee into a takeaway cup whilst glaring at himand leave as dd was never going to go back to sleep unless I pushed her around. I see the guy occasionally and still give him evil stares (he knew she was sleeping & I'm not very mature! )

[Whiteplate1]

YABU

Maybe the little boy had special needs

[sharknad0]

Whiteplate1 and that would prevent his mum from apologising because...?

[yumyumpoppycat]

I used to do the same with my two when they were small (23 mo apart) as that way they would nap at the same time in the double buggy. You win some you lose some, hope you managed to enjoy the sandwich with baby awake and s/he falls back to sleep on way home and you get a bonus naptime.

[MidniteScribbler]

Another child getting in your space and disturbing your child should have been stopped by its parent. You can't expect complete silence in a coffee shop, but parents should stop their child poking, prodding and getting in the way of their neighbour.

[yumyumpoppycat]

I dont think the mum needs to apologise for toddler waking the baby btw costa is generally very noisy (or at least the ones round here) that might be why she chose to go there with her toddler rather than a more grown up coffee shop.

[MagicMojito]

I used to be you. Now I'm the other mum (although, given that I once WAS you, I'd know that you now hated me a little inside and would have given you that "I understand" look and apologised.) .

Yabu and you will only get more unreasonable as time goes on because despite what everyone says, it gets worse (for years!) before it gets better

[honkinghaddock]

I don't apologise for every bit of merely irritating sn related behaviour that ds does and especially not if there are cats but faces involved.

[NestJay]

YANBU!

I would've told the little boy off as soon as he started doing it!

I also hate it when people crowd onto my table when there are others free. Nap times are precious de-stressing time, I want to be able to enjoy my coffee and cake in peace.

[Floggingmolly]

The other mum had probably escaped to Costa just like you, op. If you want stress free nap times; stay home...

[SanityClause]

YABU to expect other people to notice, or care, that your baby is asleep, in a public place.

I do feel your pain, though.

OTOH, soon you may be the mother of a rowdy toddler, and you may well develop a coping mechanism of ignoring catsbum mouths thrown at you, by all and sundry.

[TheNaze73]

YANBU, kids under 12 should be banned from coffee shops.

[JassyRadlett]

I wouldn't tell mine to be quiet TBH. It's a coffee shop not a childs nursery

Hmm, I'm trying to raise mine with decent manners.

That means if we're in a coffee shop, I don't tolerate behaviour that might irritate others more than the usual level you'd expect.

That means: no shouting, no shrieking, no running, no banging (on the table or anything else), no kicking, no going up to other people's tables.

It's really not that tricky for NT kids. Just... manners. And parenting.

[BackforGood]

YABU. If your baby needs quiet to sleep, then don't take them out to a public place where you have no control over the noise others will be making.

[Donatellalymanmoss]

Gosh some people really have no manners. These things happen, but I would definitely apologise if one of my children was being rowdy and woke a sleeping baby.

[ineedwine99]

Sorry but i agree with OP, control your kids! They shouldn't be sat there kicking and banging things, baby nearby or not, it's rude and disrespectful to others around you. And i will be making damned sure my baby doesn't behave like that when older.
Sorry your escape was ruined OP, hope baby got back to sleep