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To ask ex for child maintainence

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msatlantis · 05/07/2016 18:23

I separated from my ex P in January, half way through my pregnancy. He was emotionally abusive, I couldn't take any more, and I didn't want my baby growing up to the tune of his mood swings and viewing his behaviour as the norm.

We lived together in London (his flat). When we split up I stayed in the flat for a bit only when he didn't need it (though he still insisted I still paid toward it as I had been doing). When he needed to stay at the flat I had to find myself temporary accommodation (awful in third trimester of pregnancy.) When my maternity leave commenced I moved to Edinburgh - my family are here and offered support, I also own a property here. I would have been completely on my own had I stayed in London, with ex-P perhaps dropping in when convenient for him to see baby. Ex-P was not happy about me moving to Edinburgh. Said I was making it 'impossible' for him to have a relationship with his child. I understand moving 500 miles away from baby's dad was not ideal, but I needed the support of my family and he had behaved badly toward me. I may have to return to London when my maternity leave finishes in any event.

DS was born in May. Ex-P has not seen him, though I have not put up any barrier to this. Actually, I'm sad for my DS that he hasn't visited. I had to register the birth myself. Since the birth we have had one phone-call. The call was civilised but ex-P made no mention of contributing toward his son's upkeep.

Following the call I applied to the CMS to calculate child maintainence. I didn't want to have the conversation with ex-P as I had a feeling I'd be made to feel bad/unreasonable for asking for money and if ex-P did agree to contribute there's no way he would willingly agree to pay the amount the CMS calculated he should be paying (£750 per month). The amount the CMS calculated is based on ex-P's salary which is about £100k p/a.

Today ex-P has text to say he is 'most disappointed/surprised' to have received a letter from CMS. And that if I 'need/want money we can easily resolve it between ourselves'. He then says: 'it would be better for all concerned to deal with things in an open and above board way and to talk like adults. This is a very disappointing way to conduct our engagement over very difficult and important issues, but I am happy to keep things official from now on if that is what you have decided?'

I don't know how to respond. His text makes me feel bad. I'd think I'd rather keep things amicable, but I know in doing so ex-P will not agree to pay the same amount calculated by the CMS. The amount will also not be subject to any annual review. I also don't need the money right now, but I will do when my maternity pay stops and certainly when I return to work as I will need a full time nanny.

Have I been unreasonable in applying directly to the CMS? And would I be acting unreasonably in continuing to go through the official CMS channel rather than trying to reach and agreement with ex-P? I don't know what to do and how to respond to his message.

OP posts:
Lweji · 13/07/2016 16:20

Any reply can be a red flag to an abusive bull.

The best are one word replies (only when strictly necessary) or none at all.

JackieAndHyde4eva · 13/07/2016 16:34

If you ^must* reply (and I wouldnt as that is giving him the control over you that he wants- your attention and answering to him) then simply reply "i am happy with my decision" and leave it there. Engage no further. But I wouldnt even respond. Its prolonging his control of the situation.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 13/07/2016 16:35

Elspeth
His message sounded like it was written to put before a court. That is the reason why I think it might be worth countering some of claims. However, I don't think the OP should enter into any further correspondence beyond that.

ElspethFlashman · 13/07/2016 17:03

I know exactly what you mean Chaz and definitely agree with your assessment of the tone.

But she can always send the other stuff after the CMS is sorted, if you know what I mean.

Calminacrisis · 13/07/2016 17:17

Please ignore your arse of an exP. I had many similar texts/emails from my arse of an exH. They were always phrased in a way that sounded like he expected them to be used as evidence in court for how reasonable he was and how combative I was. Nothing could have been further from the truth. In person he would allege our third child wasn't his, admitted lying about income to the CSA, walked away from a private financial arrangement...on and on and on. Don't engage. Stay away. Keep it official. It really does put you in a much stabler, more secure place. And enjoy your baby Flowers

scampimom · 13/07/2016 17:34

I wonder if I can be of assistance, as I am fairly fluent in Twat and can translate his communications for you. He says:

I AM A GIANT BABY AND YOU'RE NOT DOING WHAT I WANT WAH WAH WAH WAH (repeat "WAH" ad nauseum)

He goes on to say:

IT'S YOUR FAULT THAT I AM A GIANT BABY. ALSO, I KNOW SOME LONG WORDS. LET ME USE THEM TO INTIMIDATE YOU.

And finally winds up with:

I'LL POO MY NAPPY IF YOU DON'T GIVE ME MY DUMMY I MEAN DANCE TO MY TUNE.

HTH.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 13/07/2016 17:48

Elspeth
I see what you mean. Your approach sounds sensible, deal with the current issue in a low key manner then deal with the rest later.

JackieAndHyde4eva · 13/07/2016 17:51

Grin scampimom you are so right!

SpringTown46 · 14/07/2016 09:25

That email from him sounds manipulative, as if he is writing for a (future) audience.

I be inclined to keep any response very factual, short and sweet, but pull him up on his inaccuracies (for your own future audience). i.e. along the lines: "as you are very well aware, I was forced to leave our relationship for xyz. You have failed to offer any meaningful financial support. It is in the best interests of child that ongoing financial support is set up officially and not subject to emotive or mood dependent changes".

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