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Grandmother insisting on calling DC by nickname she has chosen...

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barabasiAlbert · 28/06/2016 01:45

Is it a bit batshit of my mother to periodically decide on nicknames for family members and insist on calling the person by that name? Usually the nicknames have nothing to do with the person's real name or interests or anything - they're either things designed to highlight some aspect of my mother (her favourite apparent family connection this week, or her favourite historical figure this week), or they're slightly belittling, faintly nasty, faintly judgemental - but never so overt that anyone casually overhearing would be able to say "no that's not right". The only time my mother ever uses someone's real name is when she's furious with them.

Why i'm wondering is I will be telling my dear mother about my pregnancy in a few days' time. Based on past experience I know that one of the first things she'll do is come up with one or more nicknames for my DC. Inevitably these will be nicknames that are all about her - family cultural connections that she likes telling people about because it makes her feel special despite the cultural connections being so distant and tenuous that this makes her look like a total loon.

Having sighed, rolled my eyes, and put up with it as you'd put up with an irritating 8 year old doing the same thing, all my life (though i do have the long-term effect that I hate my given name because I only ever heard it when I was in trouble), i'm aware that turning round and saying "actually it's a really annoying habit, would you stop it" is going to look like an overreaction. Any reaction from me is likely to be met with being told i'm oversensitive and humourless and that it's only words and why am I being so nasty to my poor mother.

However, my instinct re my DC is that I will be putting my foot down and telling her that this child will have a name and no, it won't be a nickname chosen by her, and that it is disrespectful and rude of her to do this.

My sister didn't stand up to her over this, and I remember my niece getting confused and upset repeatedly when our mother kept changing her name and refusing to call her by her real name, once niece was old enough to know what was going on. Our mother kept saying that it was because she was proud of her grandchild that she wanted to call DN by something that demonstrated her "real" heritage (see point above about said heritage being so distant that it's ridiculous - as well as it really being only to do with our mother). Niece now has learnt to roll her eyes and just ignore it.

Do I put my foot down for my DC? Or am I in fact being PFB, humourless and oversensitive?

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MrsDeVere · 28/06/2016 14:57

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TinklyLittleLaugh · 28/06/2016 15:13

Another one here shuddering at memories of the "gentle family ribbing". Yes, I went to Uni and never went home again for more than a couple of nights. Quite LC now: they still take the piss when I go to visit.

Zucker · 28/06/2016 15:14

She's a bully really isn't she. A cover story ready for the sly nickname shows a real vindictiveness in her. I'd let her have very limited access to your child/children, if any at all!

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 28/06/2016 15:23

Yes. No argument. That does change things, Kaw

Scaredycat3000 · 28/06/2016 18:36

I think your only realistic chance other than N/LC is use the many brilliant suggestions in this thread for a NN for your M. The two faced goddess one is a corker, have a list handy for when instant new insults NN are required. Fight fire with fire. Though I suspect your the reaction will be ether the NN stop or your M hates the mirror being held up and explode.
I had an incredibly thoughtless Father, definitely not deliberately hurtful or abusive, but if he decided something was funny you had little choice to do as told, or you're a spoil sport. My favorite jumper was ruined for me when stood outside church my Father told every single person going into church to tickle my cat, the cat was on the front of my jumper, what felt like the whole congregation were given permission to assault me, thank fuck nobody took advantage, just tickled.
The IL's whole side have currently decided I have no sense of humour, they don't like being called out on their bullying.

barabasiAlbert · 29/06/2016 00:31

Thanks everyone for your thoughts on this. Sympathy to those who've experienced something similar. It's good to know that the problem is basically not my oversensitivity and humourlessness.

I suspect if we hold up the mirror then dear mother will explode, though if she starts on my DC then I'll have no problem with holding up the mirror and thunking her on the head with it. Thankfully we can fairly easily manage very little contact as we live in a different country. And when she gets going on the culturally-inspired names for my DC, DH and i have agreed to laugh indulgently and say "Oh DM, you are hilarious. It really does always have to be all about you doesn't it" - and then we will change the subject. If DF starts ranting and ripping into us, we shut down the conversation and leave.

Having a child is definitely giving me strength I've never found before in standing up to frankly poisonous behaviour.

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ThumbWitchesAbroad · 29/06/2016 07:21

Sounds like you and your DH have a plan, a good plan, in place to counter her "games" - well done. Thanks

Catsnores · 29/06/2016 21:28

Keeping up your boundaries sounds good OP. Best of luck Flowers

SaturdaySurprise · 29/06/2016 22:41

My mother got called "ugly face" (in a different language) by her father when she was a child/teenager. It really affected her. Her sister got called "beautiful face". My mother was much better looking than her sister so her sister probably felt she was being made fun of too. Christ knows what he was thinking.

I think you need to put your foot down on this issue as well.

YourNewspaperIsShit · 29/06/2016 23:56

I've experienced this (or something similar) growing up. For example being called 'Picasso' for getting a low grade in art or 'Orphan Annie" for not looking as well-dressed as my sister. 'Marylin Manson' during the goth phase etc.

Would it be like her calling a DGC 'Pocahontas' just so she could go into detail to others about some cultural connection even though the child looked nothing like that culture? Just so she could show her knowledge and claim to be cultural? Reminds me of a friend I know who always says she's "6th Italian, 6th German, 6th British, etc" when really she's White British but is desperate to show some kind of diversity through her ancestors Hmm

It is damaging and I bet when DC arrives you won't tolerate it. If my DM were to say "oh here's Orphan Annie" about my DC I'd quickly butt in with "aww DC use proper name you look so cute I have no idea what DM is talking about", so at least if you can't stop it happening you can totally undermine it and let your DC know you're on their side :)

For example "my little Pocahontas is here" and you say "don't be silly my insert real name looks nothing like Pocahontas no-one will make that connection" until she stops.

Confronting people like this head on usually ends up in the drama that they secretly enjoy. But overriding every time they do it leaves them at a loss and really pissed off.

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