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will a lot of the leave voters be watching the news and wondering WTAF they've done?

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ssd · 25/06/2016 10:17

I know there's loads of threads and I apologize. Please don't post if you are sick of them.

But surely leave voters cant wake up pleased when they have sat in front of the telly and heard the news channels today?

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MaidOfStars · 25/06/2016 13:12

As for the vote not being legally binding, can you imagine if MPs forced the UK to stay in the single market?
As far as I'm concerned, the question of how we deal with the EU post-Brexit wasn't addressed in the referendum. There was no public vote on whether we should stay in the common market or not.

tabulahrasa · 25/06/2016 13:24

"There was no public vote on whether we should stay in the common market or not."

I think there might have been...

'If Britain has decided it wants to leave the European Union and its single market then we respect that decision.' Angela Merkel

Draylon · 25/06/2016 13:41

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MaidOfStars · 25/06/2016 13:42

The ballot paper didn't mention a common market at all. (I am Remain, BTW, and as horrified as anyone can be about the result, although admittedly not losing jobs or housing in the immediate future).

I guess the point I'm making is that the general public don't have a legitimate recourse to complain (or riot) if the government negotiates remaining in (or leaving then rejoining) the single market. We will be out of the EU - that's all that was promised.

My belief is that remaining in the common market - Brexit-LITE? - might at least go some way to minimise the harm that could come from this (although having not actually considered Brexit a realistic possibility until a few days ago, I haven't actually read much on the best options for us now). Would like to see some discussion on this.

And of course, that will come at a cost (maybe less of a cost that outwith though). And requires a political will within the EU to not go medieval on our asses.

tabulahrasa · 25/06/2016 13:45

"The ballot paper didn't mention a common market at all."

No, but Angela Merkel's response suggests that maybe it should have as it all now depends on how the EU respond to us.

MaidOfStars · 25/06/2016 13:49

Sure. I understand that issues like the common market (and freedom of movement) are implicit in how we voted. I'm clinging onto the fact that they weren't explicit, IYSWIM!

And it's really just to address the earlier point about As for the vote not being legally binding, can you imagine if MPs forced the UK to stay in the single market? which suggests civil unrest in response to remaining in the common market. There's no reason anyone voting should have made any assumptions about our position in a common market?

MaidOfStars · 25/06/2016 13:54

I wonder how the vote might have gone had withdrawal from the common market been explicitly oackaged with leaving the EU?

MaidOfStars · 25/06/2016 13:54

*packaged

tabulahrasa · 25/06/2016 13:57

"There's no reason anyone voting should have made any assumptions about our position in a common market?"

I don't know, I still can't work out what they were voting for. What anyone actually planned for after a leave vote.

DeloresJaneUmbridge · 25/06/2016 14:04

Tbh the scariest thing is that there appears to be no plan about how we now proceed as it is fairly evident the Brexit side did not expect to win.

I voted Remain but as far as I am concerned we have already lost so much money with holding the referendum and the aftermath.

We have voted to leave and we now have to dwal with it.

rjet1245 · 25/06/2016 14:14

I voted leave and so did loads of people I know. I've never heard any of them regretting it. I'm excited to see what happens

Globetrotter100 · 25/06/2016 14:24

rjet what do you think will happen? What were you promised? What reality did you vote for?

Genuine question.

nokidshere · 25/06/2016 14:47

But we (people) haven't made a decision because it's not our decision to make.

Whoever takes over from DC could just say "yes I hear what the people want but actually it's not in our best interests as a country" and decide to stay in the EU

It's a bit like me asking the children what they want for dinner and half saying pizza, half saying McDonald's but me saying well yes I know you would like that but we are having salad because it's healthier for you!

Either way, in or out, will be decided in parliament not on a public vote.

And I don't understand why people are being made redundant right now when we are still members of the EU at least until article 50 is activated if not longer.

Suzeyshoes · 25/06/2016 14:54

nokidshere
People aren't literally packing up their suitcases and leaving on a boat today. They've been told that their businesses will geographically be moved or closed down or that their job will no longer exist once the UK leaves.

FreeButtonBee · 25/06/2016 15:11

Business don't like uncertainty. Particularly financial businesses. Which London relies on. So faced with 3 years of uncertainty or fucking off to Frankfurt or Dublin, they will chose fucking off. Or just not come in the first place. Or not invest in new factories/tooling for machinery and quietly tool up their EU factories instead.

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