will a lot of the leave voters be watching the news and wondering WTAF they've done?

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I know there's loads of threads and I apologize. Please don't post if you are sick of them.

But surely leave voters cant wake up pleased when they have sat in front of the telly and heard the news channels today?

The EU is on its way out. Nicola Sturgeon is backing a loser.

And assessing people's ability to comprehend the arguments involved in making a voting decision, as to whether they should be permitted to vote smacks of eugenics. This is a democracy whether we like it or not. Idiotic decisions by others affect each one of us every day if we cared to examine things in any detail.

If the petitions successful and we have another referendum, then what? If remain win this time, will we get loads of leavers saying stuff like " well, they're young, they dont know what they're doing/they're confused/they believed the lies".
Or maybe leave could win again and its because they still didnt understand, as they're so thick. Better have another referendum.
Or we could have outraged leavers starting a new petition because they've been "cheated" out of the result.
It could go on and on for infinity.

Nicola Sturgeon is the only one talking bloody sense

Fuck off yourself echt I'm sick of all this whining from the Remain side about over 60s landing young people in the crap, and not being around to see it and how Leave voters are thick and uneducated.

It's getting boring, Leave won, now fucking deal with it.

2 in 2 years and talk of a third is nuts.

I agree. I want out, but I don't think it's fair to everyone who voted no. Exception of a few most No voters I know had solid reasons and well thought out arguments for No. Same for yes, a few nuts and the majority voting how they thought best.

I should apply the same to this ref. But I just can't. A friend voted leave because she didn't like David Cameron. I'm not a stupid woman, but when looking for reasons for and against, all I found was either pure shite or stuff way beyond my comprehension. I'm not an economist, when some experts have said they don't know what the full effect will be, how the hell is your average voter meant to be able to cast a knowledgeable vote and I include myself in that.

I'll cling to the EU any way I can. If EU will have Scotland, I'd vote YES again. If it wont? Fuck.

the only way forward now is to move on and work together to make this work. Which it will.
I have several fiends who work for large businesses/charity in London and they have all (including the charity) put up long need articles on their home pages discussing the positives about the referendum result and how they as a business/charity can move forward and benefit. It's not doom and gloom unless you talk it down. If we start panicking and refusing to move house, spend money or travel, obviously that will have a negative effect.

*The people who didn't vote the same way as me are so stupid. Next time, we should make sure in some way that all that the thickos don't get to vote at all, maybe by only letting people who live in London vote.^

Why would you want to exclude a group from voting that excludes yourself ?

Here's a clue democracy isn't pick and mix.

I do wonder though WHY young people didn't feel it worthwhile to spend five minutes voting . Did no-one explain to them that you don't gt to vote after the event on facebook ? Did parents not discuss the issues and encourage their kids to have a voice ? (Although if the leave vote was indeed the preserve of the "poor" as lower income families tend to still be larger than higher earning families -If the young had voted in greater numbers .....would the Leave majority have been higher ?)

I'm getting rather tired of all the whining.
Every citizen was aware of the referendum - some chose to participate , others chose not to. Everyone was aware it wasn't a "Oh we can always do it again if we don't like the result" scenario. M

Another referendum would be a smack in the face for democracy. What if Remain wins the next one? Would it be best out of three? It's not just the Leave campaign that exaggerated things, the Remain camp was just as bad. I know somebody who voted remain because they were certain WW3 would break out the same day if we voted to leave. It's the fault of the campaigns that people were misinformed.

Not that there were many facts to give though. Our future out of the EU is still unclear as was our future inside of it. Nobody knows how the EU will potentially develop over time.

As for the vote not being legally binding, can you imagine if MPs forced the UK to stay in the single market? The civil unrest would be unreal.

kirinm so none of those things happened then? Compounding stereotypes didn't happen?

Why would you want to exclude a group from voting that excludes yourself

I don't. My post was heavily laced with sarcasm, but it comes to something when there have been so many similar posts over the last couple days that nobody can tell that it was a load of bollocks.

I voted Remain. No one has won. We are all losers. There has been no plan or actual financial planning, only backtracking about that extra £350million a week for the NHS. I am quite anxious about the future and the rise of the far right.

I work at a school in a multi ethnic area and white British students have been coming out with awful racist comments about "getting rid of immigrants". What are they hearing at home? It's going to be an uncertain decade, never mind 2 years.

*The people who didn't vote the same way as me are so stupid. Next time, we should make sure in some way that all that the thickos don't get to vote at all, maybe by only letting people who live in London vote.^

Mrs Gump was right ........ You can't argue with stupid - and this has to be the winner of today's stupidest post (so far anyway). It's really hard to believe some people's understanding of what democracy actually is -is stupendously absent.

trafalgar see my last post.

Apparently the South West news (my dad lives in the area) was full of the Cornish demanding promises from the government that they would still get the £60m pa funding they get from the EU direct from them having voted to leave.

I haven't looked into the technicalities of it but I am assuming that until we officially leave we still have to pay our EU share, but I guess they can change the budgets accordingly and the EU can remove this funding.

Seems a bit like Wales, a very short sighted way to carry on, they have benefited hugely from EU money but still voted to leave with no promise this funding would be replaced.

No. In answer to the OP.

I voted OUT and am relieved and happy with the result.

Fuck off yourself echt I'm sick of all this whining from the Remain side about over 60s landing young people in the crap, and not being around to see it and how Leave voters are thick and uneducated.

You appeared to be saying that the oldies are to blame in your original post, which is why I told you to fuck off. Now you seem to be saying the remain vote is blaming the oldies, and is to blame.

Could you actually say what you think about the over 60s vote?

I've done some googling re the Irish referenda re Lisbon.

Can anyone knowledgeable explain if there are any similarities?

"My post was heavily laced with sarcasm,"

I was about to point out the obvious...but worryingly maybe it wasn't obvious,

Ok, fair enough echt. I was being sarcastic in my original post which obviously didn't come across.

I am heartily fed up of hearing on Mumsnet that over 60's have screwed up the younger generations future and that most of Vote Leave are so thick that half of them can't even spell their own name let alone know what they are actually voting for and the majority have changed their mind.

Over 60's have as much right to vote as everyone else has. I voted Remain, but I also believe in democracy and the should (and will) stand regardless of reason for voting and/or the demographics.

that the vote should stand

OK, Hiphop.

I am over 60 and am vair up on apparent slights against the chronologically advantaged.

In reply to the thread title I voted leave after much reading up on both sides and watching all the debates and no I don't regret my decision in the slightest and would vote the same again as would every other leave voter I know, I also know a couple of remain voters who would now vote leave as they admit to being caught up in all the scare mongering and wish they'd gone with their gut.

Regarding the childish name calling about how we're all uneducated thickos there's a woman in her mid 20's who works with my husband for RBS, she said yesterday that the voted remain because she's pregnant and so close to her due date and she wants to remain in her house, she's a white British born woman who genuinely thought voting leave meant leaving the UK! The mind boggles but it proves that there's stupidity behind votes on either side but the biased mainstream media doesn't want to air anything anti eu.

*Not that there were many facts to give though. Our future out of the EU is still unclear as was our future inside of it. Nobody knows how the EU will potentially develop over time. ^

I do think this was a reason for the reasoned leave vote (I do agree there were less than worthy reasons for voting on BOTH sides). I do think there is a frustration that Cameron went to the EU to renegotiate and came back empty-handed. I'm not old enough to have voted in the first referendum but I am old enough to remember that what we voted for was to join The Common Market which was about trade agreements and freedom of movement for workers. What we have now is a form of European government. If the Maastrict treaty didn't exist I don't think we'd have got to this point.

I lost all faith in the EC when I spent a weekend in Strasbourg attending events for MEPs and the businesses wooing them whilst parliment was sitting. It was like pigs at the trough and a mass of self interest on all sides (and the boasting about how much certain MEPs were claiming on expenses that were dubious to put it mildly was unbelievable).

I see the EC in it's infant form as a good thing which had huge potential - but what it has evolved into -and the fact we are unable or unwilling to make changes from within make voting to leave entirely understandable. I also understand it's a risk -and a lot of remain voters are risk adverse and feel it's better the devil you know. This is something that has being brewing for years as politicians (not just ours) have allowed the EC to grow into something far bigger and more powerful than it was ever intended to be.

Whatever happens now - this referendum has brought into the arena the need for reform within the EC which was long overdue.

I don't understand why such a divisive question was left to the hands of the public in such a black and white way. There isn't a YES/NO answer.
Some people will feel good about the result because they blame the EU for their issues, whatever they might be. Other's lives will be destroyed.

I have spent the morning crying as, because of my husband's job, I will have to leave the UK now, leave everything I love (I am English btw). Many of my friends will lose their jobs. My children will have a tiny percentage of the opportunities I had and the children I teach will be subjected to even more racist remarks.

Why the f*uck did no one bother to think about some kind of compromise?! Why should my life be devastated by somebody who's circumstances are a million miles away from mine, and who probably has no understanding that life could be any different!?

I don't think Brexiters will regret their decision, as I think they have no concept of the harm that it will do, in the short term, or the long term. The reality will only trickle down of the coming years when they can't afford to go on holiday anymore, when the price of goods rises dramatically, when their kids can't get jobs and businesses close down because trade has gone elsewhere. Then the penny will drop.

try living in Scotland suzeyshoes

we overwhelmingly didn't want a conservative government and we voted the same to remain in the eu.