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to think Jeremy Corbyn is doing a great job

98 replies

mamamea · 25/06/2016 04:08

He has fulfilled his lifetime of opposition to the EU, and he has seen off a two-term Conservative PM.

Labour Party motion of no confidence seems to be misplaced.....

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PurpleAquilegia · 26/06/2016 21:51

He didn't campaign heartily for Remain because deep down he supports Leave. He didn't state that outright for the 'good of the party' who wanted to campaign for Remain, but I don't see how you can then expect him to pretend wholeheartedly - he doesn't lie through his teeth like other politicians. Hmm

The labour party have treated him disgustingly. I admire him and I hope he stays. He's one of the very few politicians whom I admire and would vote for (even though I don't agree with him on everything). He is a principled, good man.

LondonKiwiMummy · 26/06/2016 21:53

So far the only highlight of Brexit is waiting for Jeremy Corbyn to get sacked.

HE. IS. UNELECTABLE. He was unelectable before he royally fucked over the Remain campaign (I thought he was just incompetent, but from what I am hearing over the weekend, seems to have been deliberate). He's impossible to elect now.

He is a joke and he makes Labour look like a joke.

Buy the intelligent and presentable David Milliband a first class ticket home, say sorry we're such a bunch of idiots and create a serious opposition to the Tories. Otherwise everything you care about will be fucked. Or indeed anyone else - just get rid of Jeremy.

I am not sure why I even care - Labour is so irrelevant now, thanks to your leader.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 26/06/2016 22:09

So far the only highlight of Brexit is waiting for Jeremy Corbyn to get sacked

It is , isn't it? It's comic relief.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 26/06/2016 22:12

But he isn't Remain and never was. He has always been Leave

Nicole Sturgeon has more integrity

Even Farage has more integrity when it came to Europe. He's an utter pillock but there was no pretence about his stand.

Savemefromwine · 26/06/2016 22:13

He's a fucking disgrace as a leader! Thin skinned vacuous spineless and spiteful with no leadership qualities at all.

BungoWomble · 27/06/2016 01:16

Thin skinned - really? Given the media crap he's endured? The only reaction I've seen from him to it is exasperated amusement.
Vacuous and spineless? He's the one of the few politicians who seems to have some thought behind his ideas, have really tried to consider the social consequences of his ideas, and who has the courage of his convictions and the strength to stick with them against considerable opposition, the opposition of the entire establishment.
No leadership qualities? Matter of opinion isn't it. I will take his version of leadership in a democracy over Cameron's grinning media-spinning oligarchy any day.

BungoWomble · 27/06/2016 01:17

Please don't put Farage and integrity in the same sentence, it really is an insult to the English language.

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BungoWomble · 27/06/2016 01:45

Because he could see both sides to the EU question, which is complicated, and on balance preferred remain, but only just. Possibly. Or because the balance of the party was in favour of remain. I would have preferred a much better remain campaign myself. I suppose partly this is a question of what constitutes leadership. His is the modern sort of consensual considered leadership. I call that much stronger than the old-fashioned domination by hook or by crook model.

BungoWomble · 27/06/2016 02:09

Vox political has it that Corbyn's intervention in the EU campaign pushed many Labour voters to stay in, and that he delivered on his promises when Alan Johnson and Benn failed. It's another viewpoint. voxpoliticalonline.com/2016/06/26/labour-rebels-show-their-true-blue-colours/

BungoWomble · 27/06/2016 10:19

Actually, if the speed with which he's sacked a double-crossing glib self-server and assembled a new team isn't a sign that he can do your preferred style of top-down leadership at need too I don't know what is. He still has lots of support out there. We need him right now, we don't need to continue tearing the country apart - and demonstrating our collective stupidity and weakness to the entire world.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 27/06/2016 13:27

Please don't put Farage and integrity in the same sentence, it really is an insult to the English language

Oh I agree. But so is Corbyn and integrity.

Farage is odious and makes no attempt to hide the fact. Corbyn on the other hand has apparently been undermining the Labour remain campaign from within his own office.

maggiethemagpie · 27/06/2016 19:09

Well he's not doing a great job if he doesn't have the support of his cabinet, is he?

A11TheSmallTh1ngs · 27/06/2016 19:20

BungoWomble

I would have preferred a much better remain campaign myself.

???? Well, wouldn't a good leader have created one? I mean, this is only the most important political question of our lifetime. Did you read the articles about how he sabotaged the campaign?

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corbyn-allies-sabotaged-labour-in-campaign-and-fuelled-brexit_uk_576eb1b5e4b0d2571149bb1f

www.politico.eu/article/how-david-cameron-lost-brexit-eu-referendum-prime-minister-campaign-remain-boris-craig-oliver-jim-messina-obama/

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 27/06/2016 19:36

The refusal to sully himself by standing on a platform with Cameron was empty grandstanding at its finest ; as was the refusal to attend a rally with all former Labour leaders because he refused to share a platform with Blair.

The icing on the cake was he is so pure and honourable that he would be tainted if he even agreed to the compromise that there would be simultaneous rallies where Blair would go to Belfast, Brown to Glasgow, Militant to Cardiff and Jezza would do London.

The Scottish referendum was fought on the basis it transcended party politics as it was so important. The EU was the same.

maggiethemagpie · 27/06/2016 19:39

If Corbyn has any self respect, he'll resign now, he's just making himself look like a dick by hanging on.

Taranta · 27/06/2016 19:50

Why is Corbyn not addressing his supporters outside Westminster himself, eh? Sending McDonnell out to do his bidding. It's pathetic.

SeaWitchly · 27/06/2016 20:10

Corbyn has a lot of grassroots support.

Don't think he's going to resign any time soon.

www.peoplesmomentum.com/about

www.thecanary.co/2016/06/26/corbyn-fans-should-be-ecstatic-about-this-attempted-coup-the-blairites-are-committing-political-suicide/

HappydaysArehere · 27/06/2016 20:21

TheNaze73 . So agree with you. Just as we need a positive, sharp minded leader of the opposition, we have an underwhelming man who is rarely to be seen and when he does appear looks as if he has been dressed by Oxfam. We need someone like Hillary Benn who is an accomplished speaker, brought up on politics and able to impress as a representative of the Labour Party.

crossparsley · 27/06/2016 21:40

His head is not in the right place. He does a lot of feeeeeling for anyone who seems to be a victim but doesn't have a clue how to enable anyone. He was on Islington Council when they let down thousands of working class children of all heritages by patting them on the head instead of teaching them/protecting them from their immediate surroundings, he thought that the answer to sexual assault on the tube might be segregating the usual victims (women), and he thought that he could justify being anti-trident by suggesting that everyone over the tax threshold should pay to keep some people in jobs sweeping and polishing some empty warheads anand a decommissioned (in all but name) submarine. FFS. That adds up to the worst caricature of unthinking gesture leftyism. I'm a boring sober lefty feminist who wants everyone to be free from want and free to choose about their lives, and I think his posturing is toxic.

Shouldwestayorshouldwegonow · 27/06/2016 21:44

Yep he's a pillock and am assuming the Labour Party actually don't want to get elected really.

Government is just too much like hard work.

Lucked · 27/06/2016 22:07

What exactly is his vision? It is all so wishy washy. I know he is further left, I know he is passionate for workers rights and it would be better for the poor but on an individual basis it would be a leap into the unknown for anyone on more than minimum wage.

Where are the details? the ideas? The inventiveness?

I am livid with him over Remain but I think he had lost it before that, he should have been lighting a fire under us and that shouldn't have been hard what with a Tory government and an austerity budget. But nope nothing.

FrancesNiadova · 27/06/2016 22:42

AIBU ...to think that Jeremy Cornyn is doing a great job?
Yes, but on whose side? Confused

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